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Old 6th Jan 2020, 11:28
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Advertising for ATR crew at all levels up and running as of 3 days ago
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Old 7th Jan 2020, 08:05
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Did they hire anyone from the last time they advertised (6 months ago)?


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Old 7th Jan 2020, 08:14
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Originally Posted by aussiepilot View Post
Did they hire anyone from the last time they advertised (6 months ago)?
On the latest seniority list (referenced as Ďgroup date of joining listí at Virgin) latest joiners October 2019. ATR / 737 VAINZ / TT320. It appears 17 pilots have joined since July 1. Iím not privy to any recruitment information thatís not available on the seniority list.
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Old 8th Jan 2020, 05:52
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Hi, the add for ATR crew lists some pretty attractive salary numbers and mentions a new EBA. Is a copy of the EBA available online or is anyone able to list the key changes to the old one?
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Old 8th Jan 2020, 06:02
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The EBA is at fair work getting approved so nothing will be online yet. It hasnt even come into effect.

Salary numbers start at the Level 1 rates advertised in that job ad. 10 RDOs per roster, everything else is pretty close to the Narrowbody ruleset with duty times closer to exemption limits.

level 3 pay (3rd year) is $143,500 Capt and $89,600 for FO. Once off type freeze there is a $5000 retention bonus for Capt every 6 months, $3250 for FOs.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 06:23
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So are they recruiting???

Whatís the latest?
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 04:25
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I have been told to leave this one alone for many reasons. If you're lucky to be young enough, I would apply to VA and only accept a jet position from day dot, otherwise keep shopping. You're better off going to the US for a couple of years. No bond, no return of service obligation while flying brand new jets. The experience will open up many more opportunities in the short and long term.
1. The EBA is at Fair Work although it is my understanding that Fair Work is waiting for a reply from the company regarding some changes. This is called stalling and has not gone unnoticed by the ATR pilot group. Just adds salt to a wound.
2. As far as 'everything else being close to the narrow body ruleset', that is not exactly true. Narrow-body do not get rostered multiple 'reserve days' every week of the year. That is unless they bid to do so. What are the chances you might get called off-reserve? Great question! If you're a FO...90%, for a CAPT...maybe around 70%.
3. Opportunities for progression to the jet fleet? Yes of course, for a specific gender and ex-cadets. Everyone else can hurry up and wait. There is the ROS (return of service) if you happen to live in Brisbane, there's the 10% cap (percentage of pilots allowed to move per year), and then you have to be at a certain standard to transfer to the 'super jets'. This can be controlled by the company to suit if you know what I mean. I forgot to mention the cap will move to 15% after 1 Jul 2020...wow how amazing and kind!!
4. BOND as per the 'coming sometime soon' EBA....$45,000! (over 3 years). Not a typo ladies and gentlemen. What happens if you don't pass the type rating or training as some have not in the past?

LB

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Old 19th Jan 2020, 06:37
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Originally Posted by "Littlebird" View Post
3. Opportunities for progression to the jet fleet? Yes of course, for a specific gender and ex-cadets. Everyone else can hurry up and wait.

LB
You have proof of this? Iím sure transfers are handed to those on a seniority basis, their sim standard taken into consideration also.

Anything out of order would be challenged by the person bypassed.
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 11:06
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Originally Posted by Ragnor View Post
You have proof of this? Iím sure transfers are handed to those on a seniority basis, their sim standard taken into consideration also.

Anything out of order would be challenged by the person bypassed.
No, I don't have proof myself, but I have seen and heard the evidence from a very reliable source. Seniority out the door and as far as sim scores are concerned, we'll let's just say for some people this is overlooked.
I would really hope that anyone unfairly bypassed would challenge the process and their status.
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 11:16
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Sounds like you need to get off the ATR to explore greener pastures Littlebird.....Doesnt sound like you are having a fun time over there.
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Old 19th Jan 2020, 12:27
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Sounds like you need to get off the ATR to explore greener pastures Littlebird.....Doesnt sound like you are having a fun time over there.
I don't think anyone would be silly enough to let me anywhere near one of those things Chadzat!
My last encounter with anything French had a bad temper, only room for one, and tried to kill me on at least 2 occasions

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Old 19th Jan 2020, 20:35
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Mate, you need to try a different dating site! 😉
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Old 20th Jan 2020, 10:43
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Mate, you need to try a different dating site! 😉

Been there done that mate.


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Old 20th Jan 2020, 11:28
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If never ceases to amaze, the tangent that some of these threads go off on.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 08:18
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With recruitment slowing to a halt, I think it would be a very courageous decision to turn down any position if you actually want to work for the company and instead hold out for a jet position. The wait could well be extensive, so just getting on the list is pretty important as only a few extra people above you could add years to your wait for a jet command.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 11:36
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If you want a VA job: get on the list ASAP.

Simple.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 11:57
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Only hiring is for attrition, there is no growth.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 13:13
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Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer View Post
If you want a VA job: get on the list ASAP.

Simple.
Agreed, rejecting a position on the ATR would be a big gamble. It's easy to say hold out for a jet position but not everyone is lucky enough to go straight to a jet position.
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Old 21st Jan 2020, 23:15
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I have been told by a friend of a friend that VARA will have a surplus of 6 captains and 12 first officers because they are retiring 3 Fokkers in march.
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Old 20th Oct 2022, 06:00
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VA Pilot Recruitment 73

Afternoon all.
Small shout out to see if anyone has conducted recent interviews in Brisbane for FO 737 and care to shed some light on Yes/No results and wait times.
I believe backlog of previous employed pilots still being sorted.
Thanks in advance
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