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Old 19th Dec 2017, 20:44
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Any idea of what the recruitment status is for Virgin is at the moment? I got the feeling they were desperate and applied last week and received an email saying I was unsuccessful (not that it wasnít competitive enough and will remain on hold, just a flat out you are unsuccessful). No psych testing, no career crashís, a pretty generic aviation CV saying that I meet the minimums etc and I ticked the box saying that I have between 250-500 multi PIC.

Have they really judged me as useless off such little information lol? Or does it have something to do with the applications closing as of 31st December or something else?

Not being self entitled, just trying to plan my future and run the numbers (or rule out) various options.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 23:33
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Yeah I’m not sure they’re desperate any more. I’ve been on 4 days off and not been called once (not that I’m complaining) just stating facts. I’m sure others have different views, but perhaps they’re trying to tighten up the cash spent on calling in crew?
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 10:56
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Originally Posted by Altimeters View Post
Yeah Iím not sure theyíre desperate any more. Iíve been on 4 days off and not been called once (not that Iím complaining) just stating facts. Iím sure others have different views, but perhaps theyíre trying to tighten up the cash spent on calling in crew?
It's cheaper to cancel a flight, than calling in crew on their day off. Didn't you know?
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 03:36
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I applied for this job a few months ago and received an email yesterday saying I've been successful and to do the online psych testing and await further details. I'd keep hassling them if I was you kcboy and see what happens.
If anyone has recently done the psychometric online testing and has a recommended website or book they used to practice I'd love to hear about it. I've done a few of these at different airlines over the years but each place seems to use it's own specific type of test.
Aussie-kiwi if the offer still stands for some group testing and sim info I'd be most grateful.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 10:37
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Anyone attend an assessment day in the last couple of weeks and receive a yay or nay yet?

Does VA contact you before calling references?
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 09:38
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Anyone got any insider knowledge on whether they're still struggling to crew the Perth 737 base or if they're back at normal numbers?
Does anyone have current info on this? I'm also interested
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 12:03
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My assessment day had a couple of GA pilots and the rest were all people with multi-crew experience. Unsure of what total time the other candidates had, but I gather the lower experienced applicants are being targeted for the ATR opposed to 777 or 737.
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 20:40
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Originally Posted by donkey767 View Post
My assessment day had a couple of GA pilots and the rest were all people with multi-crew experience. Unsure of what total time the other candidates had, but I gather the lower experienced applicants are being targeted for the ATR opposed to 777 or 737.
You'd be wrong. Pilots with no multi-crew or turbine experience are being recruited directly into 737 positions. Virgin don't want experienced pilots, they want trainable monkeys.
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Brakerider View Post
You'd be wrong. Pilots with no multi-crew or turbine experience are being recruited directly into 737 positions. Virgin don't want experienced pilots, they want trainable monkeys.
Over 3200 hours, 700 multi.....not experienced enough to sit online testing for 777 SO
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 23:26
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post
Over 3200 hours, 700 multi.....not experienced enough to sit online testing for 777 SO
Says it all really. Airline recruitment in Australia is a sad joke.
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 23:32
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Originally Posted by Power View Post
Says it all really. Airline recruitment in Australia is a sad joke.
Yes was a bit disappointed, I imagine there were simply higher experienced guys flying multi crew on turbo props jumping ship.

Anyway, cross VA off the list and iíll go somewhere else.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 00:30
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post
Over 3200 hours, 700 multi.....not experienced enough to sit online testing for 777 SO
FFS...

This is exactly the type of guys VA needs...
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post
Over 3200 hours, 700 multi.....not experienced enough to sit online testing for 777 SO
By the sheer amount of regional turboprop skippers and FO's getting in recently you might find that you were just trumped by people with those sort of hours. Unfortunately a lot of the culling seems to be automatic or semi-automatic.

Chin up, you've got the right sort of hours to at least have a crack at regional tp's to get some hours on things that are a little bigger and faster
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Originally Posted by Wiggley View Post
By the sheer amount of regional turboprop skippers and FO's getting in recently you might find that you were just trumped by people with those sort of hours. Unfortunately a lot of the culling seems to be automatic or semi-automatic.

Chin up, you've got the right sort of hours to at least have a crack at regional tp's to get some hours on things that are a little bigger and faster
My exact thoughts, I believe VA have group seniority, so their current atr guys get a crack before me,which is fair.
Still would have thought that if you I met minimums, I would be tested to some degree, same as at qf. I guess testing costs money so theyíre not prepared to assess everyone with 500 hours.

Iím not too concerned, currently in a good job with a few other opportunities.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 10:47
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ATR guys have seniority?! Thatís interesting! My mates there are all complaining that their seniority is worthless as the company intends to take direct entry to both the 737 and 777 over the top of them.
If you are desperate for a VA gig take the ATR and expect anywhere from 5 to 10 years. I think youíd be better off waiting and getting some decent multicrew turboprop time and going to the jet rather than the leper fleet.
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Easy fix to that, take it to FWA
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What a patronising attitude to aspiring pilots that you and Inboundd have!
Yes Airlines do need a mix of experience levels who will learn by experience. 500 hours is fine with the correct training, to get into the RHS of a 737.
A number of large airlines (Legacy and LoCos) in the UK put cadets with 250+ hours from Flying School into RHS of A320/737. Its all in the training, not necessarily amassing hundreds of hours in GA.
A relative of mine was a wide body Capt. in the RAF with 1800 hrs total flying. Female too. (Tristar/A330)
Operated in demanding situations far more difficult than routine airline ops.

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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 19:37
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post
Brakerider
What a patronising attitude to aspiring pilots that you and Inboundd have!
Yes Airlines do need a mix of experience levels who will learn by experience. 500 hours is fine with the correct training, to get into the RHS of a 737.
A number of large airlines (Legacy and LoCos) in the UK put cadets with 250+ hours from Flying School into RHS of A320/737. Its all in the training, not necessarily amassing hundreds of hours in GA.
A relative of mine was a wide body Capt. in the RAF with 1800 hrs total flying. Female too. (Tristar/A330)
Operated in demanding situations far more difficult than routine airline ops.
Make it 500, 250 or even 150 hours. All options are a great big slap in the face to all those that've worked hard in GA, ticked all the "right boxes" only to be told 3200 hours and 700 multi engine isn't enough.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 21:23
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It is what it is.
The little feedback received is frustrating.

Am I close to where I need to be, or do I now need to go and get multi crew time in something plus 5.7t?

Can anyone who has gone through the whole process shed some light?
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 11:38
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My group was mostly regional crew. Others may have to wait until the (regional) hallways have been hoovered before getting a call. Apparently 150 needed this year so anything's possible!
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