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Old 24th Oct 2017, 02:11
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Hawk Circle - A long, long time. If I'm not mistaken, the entire VA seniority list is on the bottom of the VARA list. So once all the previous VARA F100 FO's get a command, it's open slather for the VA pilots list. Then any new recruits. It's an absolute dogs breakfast!
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 09:03
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the entire VA seniority list is on the bottom of the VARA list
Really? Why?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Really? Why?
Because at the time of integration, VARA pilots (incl ATR) went to the bottom of the VA list.
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 09:47
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Something above is back to front then, did Cornhulio mean the opposite?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Something above is back to front then, did Cornhulio mean the opposite?
Yeah, it didn't make much sense then, and not much more now Icarus.

So VA group date of joining list went to the bottom of the VARA seniority list and vice-versa on the date of integration (Jan 2014).

Clear as mud?
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 11:49
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That's the standard way of integrating seniority lists worldwide.

VA are added to the end of VARA's list, VARA are added to the end of VA's list. Anyone joining after that is at the bottom of the single list. Gives crew who were in VARA at the time of integration first shot at promotions on VARA ops (including ATR).
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Old 24th Oct 2017, 12:36
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Youíll find thatís also happening with the Tiger integration. Except of course for those on a short term contract with no seniority number.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 09:39
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VA are added to the end of VARA's list, VARA are added to the end of VA's list. Anyone joining after that is at the bottom of the single list.
Sorry I may be dim or reading the words in some obscure interpretation but did two lists become one? If so who is at the top? Or is there a list for VA and VARA and then the SINGLE list?

What I do know is that I am seeing outside recruitment on to the 737 right seat from both VARA F100 and also external applicants.
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Old 25th Oct 2017, 10:33
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Originally Posted by 206greaser
Youíll find thatís also happening with the Tiger integration. Except of course for those on a short term contract with no seniority number.
Yep tiger permanent pilots will go to almost the bottom of the group list.
By the time integration goes thru probably won't be any contract pilots left to go on the list. They are leaving in droves.

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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 02:18
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Anyone got any insider knowledge on whether they're still struggling to crew the Perth 737 base or if they're back at normal numbers?
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 02:23
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I guess the contract pilots don't have very long left to go on the original deal? Guessing about 5-6 months?
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
I guess the contract pilots don't have very long left to go on the original deal? Guessing about 5-6 months?
June 2018 I think the contract is up. Considering almost 2/3 of the FOs are now contractors they might be in trouble soon🙄
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 11:55
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Apparently some of them havenít even flown an aeroplane yet.....
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 23:20
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As it turns out now all the Tiger contract peeps will be given full time positions, and with that a position on the GDOJ. They will get these positions ahead of people already on the list without bidding as is the normal process. Another VA cluster f_€%!!
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 01:23
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Originally Posted by 206greaser
As it turns out now all the Tiger contract peeps will be given full time positions, and with that a position on the GDOJ. They will get these positions ahead of people already on the list without bidding as is the normal process. Another VA cluster f_Ä%!!
EOI's to go to TT were put out to all VA pilots a few months ago with very little interest. All the TT contract pilots would go to the bottom of the GDOJ......what's the problem?

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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 09:17
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Well from what I was told, it was a very light on information EOI and only one week to reply. With no input from the unions on the deal it’s not hard to see why there was little uptake. I’d imagine a good number of SO’s and ATR crew would have considered it given time to consider it. It was the company’s obligation to put it out, they did the bare minimum as usual. Also from what I’ve heard the ones that did express interest where denied anyway. So now we have a situation where contract pilots will take narrow body jet positions in capital cities ahead of guys on the the list. If VA cared less about seniority they’d struggle to show it.
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Old 12th Nov 2017, 02:06
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Anyone able to shed some light on what the planning exercise during the assessment day involves? I gather day 1 is all behavioural based and no tech questions?
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Anyone able to shed some light on what the planning exercise during the assessment day involves? I gather day 1 is all behavioural based and no tech questions?
donkey767: One day is the SIM. The other is a panel interview and group exercise. PM me if you want a rundown.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Aussie-kiwi
donkey767: One day is the SIM. The other is a panel interview and group exercise. PM me if you want a rundown.
Would be greatly appreciated mate! tried sending you one but it looks like your PM's aren't turned on.
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Old 7th Dec 2017, 23:15
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Any idea how long it generally takes for references to be checked? Are people getting start dates or into the holding pool? Thanks.
14 months for me
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