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Just an enquiry. Early this week the flight Darwin - Melbourne, scheduled to depart about 0200, ended up departing sans passengers and returned to Melbourne. A group of 95 Melbourne school children were then stuck in the terminal until departing on a flight at 1945. The family have had the same problem Darwin - Adelaide, aircraft departs minus passengers. Explanation available?
Jetstar fly with minimum cabin crew. If one goes UFD half way through a duty then the aircraft has to ferry empty back to Melbourne or wherever it is meant to end up. It could all be fixed by carrying an "operational spare" but that would cost money so it is better to inconvenience the travelling public.
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Interesting - and not doubting what you're saying - in previous companies overseas there was a provision in the OM to continue but reduce pax numbers to the number of exits that could be used in an evacuation with reduced crew.
Makes sense.
Cheers.
Interesting - and not doubting what you're saying - in previous companies overseas there was a provision in the OM to continue but reduce pax numbers to the number of exits that could be used in an evacuation with reduced crew.
Makes sense.
Cheers.
Not sure if this is correct Galdian, but I believe tha both jstar and virgin already operate on a dispo for reduced cabin crew to 4 from 5. No more room for reductions perhaps....
Last edited by No Idea Either; 24th Sep 2016 at 11:52. Reason: Misspelt Galdian....had to correct that of course.
Interesting - and not doubting what you're saying - in previous companies overseas there was a provision in the OM to continue but reduce pax numbers to the number of exits that could be used in an evacuation with reduced crew.
I thought they had a Darwin base?
The kiwis can operate with a dispo that allows you to depart as long as you have 50 pax to each FA - which mean with a mid duty you could depart with 150 pax and 3 FAs(320/737). AU rules don't allow it - min 4.
Does it come from an instrument approval to operate 1:50 (which I assume they do)?
1:36 is the standard unless the operator has been given approval from CASA for 1:50.
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Detai...Statement/Text
https://www.casa.gov.au/file/144816/...token=9KLDNmUY
https://www.legislation.gov.au/Detai...Statement/Text
https://www.casa.gov.au/file/144816/...token=9KLDNmUY
engine out.
If my memory serves me correct your proposition is/was only applicable to wide body aircraft.
FWIW. Ansett could/would carry up to 12 staff/family passengers on B767 passenger aircraft operating as a freighter without any cabin crew.
If my memory serves me correct your proposition is/was only applicable to wide body aircraft.
FWIW. Ansett could/would carry up to 12 staff/family passengers on B767 passenger aircraft operating as a freighter without any cabin crew.
For my current operator the requirement is under the Flight Admin Manual(a CASA approved document) that says for a passenger flight you require one cabin crew member for each primary position, which is each door on a 737. This is irrelevant of the instrument that allows 1:50, which deals more with able bodied passengers occupying over wing exits. I don't know if this applies at Jetstar. It could also be a contractual requirement. At my organisation there are also contractual issues with operating reduced cabin crew numbers that need Union approval, again not sure if it applies at Jetstar
