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As Keg said the MOU positions and joining QF as an SO are two separate issues.
I think it's good to see the MOU work both ways.
That was always the intent.
But I agree that if a JQ pilot was already a widebody Captain then it would be a backward step, pay and probably lifestyle wise back to FO on Shorthaul QF.
Still it's an opportunity if someone wants it.
Just shows how well JQ pilots careers have progressed, that the equivalent years of service in JQ grants a widebody command versus a shorthaul FO position in QF.
With contract Captains in Asia, some with commuting getting paid around 25-30k after tax then LWOP could be a better option.
Good to see plenty of options around and getting better.
I think it's good to see the MOU work both ways.
That was always the intent.
But I agree that if a JQ pilot was already a widebody Captain then it would be a backward step, pay and probably lifestyle wise back to FO on Shorthaul QF.
Still it's an opportunity if someone wants it.
Just shows how well JQ pilots careers have progressed, that the equivalent years of service in JQ grants a widebody command versus a shorthaul FO position in QF.
With contract Captains in Asia, some with commuting getting paid around 25-30k after tax then LWOP could be a better option.
Good to see plenty of options around and getting better.
I guess the only reason to come across on the MOU is if you stay after your three years with that seniority number, you can then climb the Qantas ladder as they have already reached the top of Jetstar (plus longhaul gravy train when they have the seniority, if it still there).
backward step, pay and probably lifestyle wise back to FO on Shorthaul QF.
In fact, I love my lifestyle / job so much I won't be bidding for the 787 even though the financial incentive for div 3 super is significant.
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Heard from a mate today that guys have been contacted for the next stage yesterday - all externals. Have contacted many mates who have applied internally and not a peep (including myself).
Seems a bit strange that no internals have 'met the standard' yet......
Seems a bit strange that no internals have 'met the standard' yet......
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Captain cloudbuster.
I'm not saying that SH is worse. In fact I agree with you.
I'd hate to do the Ultra Long haul flying that the 787 will do. Once the fleet is large enough the crews will work very hard, at the wrong times of day and time zones.
Whilst you work hard in SH, you work daylight hours, your home far more often, your not jet lagged, and not nearly as fatigued. Many LH days off are spent recovering from jetlag and night flying.
With big profits forecast for the next few years SH pilots will do nicely from the bonus scheme too.
The only point I'm making is pay wise and stripe wise for JQ widebody CPTs going to FO is not the step up it is for QF pilots.
But your right, who cares about pay if your always away and doing undesirable flying and exhausted. Look at the EK pilots.
Agree with others that this is not an MOU thread.
Good luck to all those that apply to QF wherever they may come from.
At least the focus is now on Qantas so that's a great thing.
The great thing about QF is it has options. SH, medium haul, long haul and ultra long haul with the 787.
Not many airlines offer that. Or a dapper white hat.
I'm not saying that SH is worse. In fact I agree with you.
I'd hate to do the Ultra Long haul flying that the 787 will do. Once the fleet is large enough the crews will work very hard, at the wrong times of day and time zones.
Whilst you work hard in SH, you work daylight hours, your home far more often, your not jet lagged, and not nearly as fatigued. Many LH days off are spent recovering from jetlag and night flying.
With big profits forecast for the next few years SH pilots will do nicely from the bonus scheme too.
The only point I'm making is pay wise and stripe wise for JQ widebody CPTs going to FO is not the step up it is for QF pilots.
But your right, who cares about pay if your always away and doing undesirable flying and exhausted. Look at the EK pilots.
Agree with others that this is not an MOU thread.
Good luck to all those that apply to QF wherever they may come from.
At least the focus is now on Qantas so that's a great thing.
The great thing about QF is it has options. SH, medium haul, long haul and ultra long haul with the 787.
Not many airlines offer that. Or a dapper white hat.
With contract Captains in Asia, some with commuting getting paid around 25-30k after tax then LWOP could be a better option.
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SP, I've only heard from one person that was contacted yesterday. External applicant and has been given 2nd Nov Interview and 3rd for Sim. No one I know of has been given a "no" yet. So can only assume they'll hold off until successful applicants have been notified.
Just do a search Icarus. Plenty of those types of opportunities around.
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Thanks for the link Keg.
Beijing Capital airlines A330 CPT is $32,838 a month after tax or $395,000 a year after tax.
Month on month off.
China Southern NZ based contracts similar.
Beijing Capital airlines A330 CPT is $32,838 a month after tax or $395,000 a year after tax.
Month on month off.
China Southern NZ based contracts similar.
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assuming you are looking at figures as per Longreach Aviation for Beijing Capital A330;
Resident max is US$ 24.6K per month;
Commuter month on/month off US$ 15.5K per month
so don't know where your figures are coming from.
Regardless: YES there is a pot of gold out there for the vast minority who can get through the screening and adapt, as required, to the operating environment and hope to hell nothing real or imagined pops up on your medical every 6 months.
Good luck to any who can make it work for them
however please don't sell it as a "one page resume and bingo 2 months later you're earning the big $$$$" type scenario.
That's for the agencies to do!
Cheers.
assuming you are looking at figures as per Longreach Aviation for Beijing Capital A330;
Resident max is US$ 24.6K per month;
Commuter month on/month off US$ 15.5K per month
so don't know where your figures are coming from.
Regardless: YES there is a pot of gold out there for the vast minority who can get through the screening and adapt, as required, to the operating environment and hope to hell nothing real or imagined pops up on your medical every 6 months.
Good luck to any who can make it work for them
however please don't sell it as a "one page resume and bingo 2 months later you're earning the big $$$$" type scenario.That's for the agencies to do!
Cheers.
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Thank youse for all the pm's
Much apreciate all the info on the MoU from all my Q peers
Special shout out to to Keg who I consider a mentor to all of us junior jocks lookin to make good.
Lookin forward to drivin together on the line....
I agree mate that it will certainly be a two way street ...... Time to move on from the 'ol corparate mantra of poloution of cultures
Special shout out to to Keg who I consider a mentor to all of us junior jocks lookin to make good.
Lookin forward to drivin together on the line....
I agree mate that it will certainly be a two way street ...... Time to move on from the 'ol corparate mantra of poloution of cultures