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All of this is guess work at best however with a healthy hold file ( there are people still getting slots from the 2016 recruitment drive) and a focus more on the school opening later in the year, I would hazard a guess at not before this time next year at the earliest
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It triggers me when I read that a pilot has "resigned from the Qantas Group" because they are going to only receive a measly 4 weeks notice for a mainline job. Left or right seat, it doesn't matter - in this industry it pays to be unencumbered by anything opposing a lifestyle change.
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Do you want the job or not? It is for you to decide. If you want to be prissy about it, who would want to employ you? You are an potential employee that rings all thealarm bells about be a future drama queen.
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It had a lot more to do with the lifestyle in which Qantas was going to control. Seat changes yes were part of the problem as every seat change came with another move for the family unless you stayed in the same place and commuted. The 4 weeks notice was a problem when your moving back from overseas. Your husband and children also have to be happy with that. Fortunately other airlines are offering similar deal. No back seat driving, same base for seat changes and a career prospect for the next 20 or so years. Why get caught up in the race for the top at Qantas when you don't have to. I can completely understand and applaud her for going for a job that benifits herself and her family and not just herself.
I suppose everyone is in a different situation and good on her for finding what she needed.
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It had a lot more to do with the lifestyle in which Qantas was going to control. Seat changes yes were part of the problem as every seat change came with another move for the family unless you stayed in the same place and commuted. The 4 weeks notice was a problem when your moving back from overseas. Your husband and children also have to be happy with that. Fortunately other airlines are offering similar deal. No back seat driving, same base for seat changes and a career prospect for the next 20 or so years. Why get caught up in the race for the top at Qantas when you don't have to. I can completely understand and applaud her for going for a job that benifits herself and her family and not just herself.
You can change seats in any base, it just may not be the first opportunity to do so.
The last F/O slot was formally awarded to an individual 2 weeks after they started (informally, it may happen sooner).
Notice periods may be variable. Cathay pilots often require 3 months for example, and many pilots have deferred start dates due to births etc.
Good luck to your mate, although any race at Qantas - like anywhere - is entirely the individuals' choice.
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For what it's worth:
You can change seats in any base, it just may not be the first opportunity to do so.
The last F/O slot was formally awarded to an individual 2 weeks after they started (informally, it may happen sooner).
Notice periods may be variable. Cathay pilots often require 3 months for example, and many pilots have deferred start dates due to births etc.
Good luck to your mate, although any race at Qantas - like anywhere - is entirely the individuals' choice.
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Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
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Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
Of course the thread name is “Qantas Recruitment “.
If you are not interested that is just fine, equally - if you are not interested then Qantas is better off without you!
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
Secondly, I believe, what has many on here tapping on the keyboard is the suspicion that her interpretation of what is best for her lifestyle and family is quite likely misguided and has been clouded by a short term ‘win’. As others have said, once you are in Mainline, no one forces you to a base change or promotion. There are flexible working arrangements available if warranted and numerous career options for that ‘next stage of life’.
It is hard to understand her decision based on the reality of ground zero at QF at the moment...(ps..I don’t know any personal circumstances in this case, nor am I saying a wrong decision has been made or saying what she should have done...just saying in my opinion, based on a strong sample size and bell distribution of brand new recruits (mostly around 30yrs or older) her supposed logic in coming to her decision is very questionable.)
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Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?
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Exactly. We all have choices and we interview companies we want to work for just as much as they interview us. If, for some reason what they are offering in a total package does not suit yourself or your family, then you CAN CHOOSE to not take the job if offered.
This is lady is not the only person who has rejected Qantas over the past few years. Qantas are in a position to dangle a carrot and it’s up to the general pilot demographic to decide if they want it or not. Many moons ago there were not many options however in today’s world there is plenty. She has also been flying a jet for the company and so moving onto the mothership is not going to be of benefit if each opportunity which comes up (seniority depicted) within requires a move to another city. She is completely aware that for many others this is fine, she herself does not want to commute and or move the family any more. She has moved for aviation 8 times already, so when do you stop? She was content with her current position and found she did not need the change to complete her career.
I completey understood and and respected this. There are a lot more considerations to be made as we get older and having the responsibility of children and a marriage can and is for some more important. Her dealings with the recruiters and the total process was fine it was simply the total package. She can stay where she lives and move seats when she is abled to do so all from the comfort of her home.
If you are young and driven by the desire to climb the seniority ladder for promotion then by all means it seems a fantastic job.
This is lady is not the only person who has rejected Qantas over the past few years. Qantas are in a position to dangle a carrot and it’s up to the general pilot demographic to decide if they want it or not. Many moons ago there were not many options however in today’s world there is plenty. She has also been flying a jet for the company and so moving onto the mothership is not going to be of benefit if each opportunity which comes up (seniority depicted) within requires a move to another city. She is completely aware that for many others this is fine, she herself does not want to commute and or move the family any more. She has moved for aviation 8 times already, so when do you stop? She was content with her current position and found she did not need the change to complete her career.
I completey understood and and respected this. There are a lot more considerations to be made as we get older and having the responsibility of children and a marriage can and is for some more important. Her dealings with the recruiters and the total process was fine it was simply the total package. She can stay where she lives and move seats when she is abled to do so all from the comfort of her home.
If you are young and driven by the desire to climb the seniority ladder for promotion then by all means it seems a fantastic job.
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So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
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So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
Applications open for 2 weeks each 18 months during a so called pilot shortage.
Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.
I still try to remain positive and hope applications open again this year, keeping all options both in Aus and abroad open though.
Good luck to everyone.
Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.
Although I’ll admit that the odd internal applicant has slipped through the net with a less than perfect track record.
So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
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They’re great people, but even they’ll admit, they wouldn’t have gotten an interview unless they were in the group.
Would a skippers dash 8 pilot have the exact same chance as a qlink pilot at getting an interview?
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Although I didn't progress through to the next day.
There are so many damn variables in the whole process - even the initial 5 question interview, initial talent Q, group exercise, 1 on 2 interview with pilot and person from HR, the scenario they give you, validation, education, what colour g-string you wore ect ect ect.
They can be and will be picky with who they want.
I still take my hat off to everyone that get's through - some questionable people for sure, but whatever, good on 'em!
