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Old 13th Nov 2018, 03:02
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This is why they make you complete all parts of the testing prior to the Board. It’s the oldest trick in the H.R. book - If the medical turns up something that they believe will cost them money and/or your productivity in a decade, they are able to legally reject you. The candidate will never know that they were rejected for medical reasons, since it can be argued that there was some other fiendish flaw found in the totality of the information in your application (interview, simulator, or the cut of your jib).

If a job offer is extended pending the results of your medical, and you hold the required CASA Class 1; it is illegal to reject you on medical grounds. American Airlines used to have a medical prior to employment. They were informed that it was illegal, and quietly dropped that portion of the assessment.
The above statement is correct for Qantas over thirty years ago so probably still the case.
I was initially knocked back with no explanation in 1995, they changed eyesight standard (previously the same as RAAF apparently, no glasses allowed!) and I was put on hold late 86, got in 1988. Two and a half years of lost seniority.

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Old 13th Nov 2018, 03:24
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Originally Posted by Tankengine
I was put on hold late 96, got in 1988. Two and a half years of lost seniority.
...but at least you got to travel back in time.
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 04:03
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The no glasses rule was changed only because they ran out of suitable applicants. Crazy.
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 05:04
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
...but at least you got to travel back in time.
If you cross the international date line enough times, this is what happens. It’s not a pretty sight
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 05:33
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If you cross the international date line enough times, this is what happens. It’s not a pretty sight
too true! Yet another reason to retire by 60.
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Old 13th Nov 2018, 05:41
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Originally Posted by dragon man
The no glasses rule was changed only because they ran out of suitable applicants. Crazy.
Yep, of course nobody will say that officially.
Age for employment went from 28 up to 46 over a few years for the same reason and no discrimination allowed (officially) anymore.
Luckily getting in when I did saved me from Ansett, overseas airlines etc etc. 🤔
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 09:06
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Surely once you get to medical stage, a no means you have been 'out-medicalled' Sounds like Gattaca has arrived.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 11:15
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Originally Posted by Gligg
Surely once you get to medical stage, a no means you have been 'out-medicalled' Sounds like Gattaca has arrived.
Well not really. The review board doesn't look at your application until the medical is done. You would have no idea why they rejected your application. Could be average sim results for someone with experience. Could be the notes from the interview. Could be lack of customer service in your scenario. You will just never know.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 12:29
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I’ve been told the feedback from HR was actually quite open about why you were knocked back.
In saying that, some of the reasons are a joke. It seems flying a plane well is down the priority list these days.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 17:35
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I think internals get feedback. Externals are provided with nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 18:48
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I wouldn’t put too much stock in feedback anyway..if they thought your dandruff and stale sweat and body odor issues weren’t conducive to being an airline pilot they’re going to say that a combination of sim and tech exam reasons or something to avoid saying the real reasons
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Old 20th Nov 2018, 02:16
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Anybody have an idea as to when or how often the final review board is held each month for a final decision?
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 08:32
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Originally Posted by beauzo111
Anybody have an idea as to when or how often the final review board is held each month for a final decision?
I believe it's every two three weeks but that said I'm aware some people recently have waited 4 weeks plus. Maybe try calling if you haven't heard anything by three weeks or so. Good luck!
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 02:19
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Originally Posted by Max-Diff
I believe it's every two three weeks but that said I'm aware some people recently have waited 4 weeks plus. Maybe try calling if you haven't heard anything by three weeks or so. Good luck!
A lot of boys and girls lately had to wait approximently 10 weeks. Even stranger when people who completed everything after them found out significantly earlier (talking about 6 weeks).

Some people tried chasing it up, hold up with medicals
on the doctors desk was the more often then not then answer. Some tried being a little push and were put in their place to a degree. As always, no news is good news
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 06:33
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I know of two guys who got put on the hold file in November last year. They are both still waiting for start dates. Long time to be in limbo!
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 07:24
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The issue is that even if you end up on the hold file it doesn't guarantee employment. Offering of a start date is dependent on performance in the interview and if people after you continuously perform better then you are perpetually on hold
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 10:10
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
I know of two guys who got put on the hold file in November last year. They are both still waiting for start dates. Long time to be in limbo!
internal or external?
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 11:40
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Originally Posted by TurningFinalRWY36
The issue is that even if you end up on the hold file it doesn't guarantee employment. Offering of a start date is dependent on performance in the interview and if people after you continuously perform better then you are perpetually on hold

While this used to be the case, I don't believe it is anymore as they worked out that phosophy is completely unfair. Everyone I know who have got QF jobs recently, did so in the order that they went onto the hold file.
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Max-Diff

While this used to be the case, I don't believe it is anymore as they worked out that phosophy is completely unfair. Everyone I know who have got QF jobs recently, did so in the order that they went onto the hold file.
I’m fairly sure it is still the case based on people in the most recent courses with the exemption of internals
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Old 24th Nov 2018, 20:12
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internal or external?

Both external.
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