Qantas Recruitment
500 went to psychometric testing? Out of all the people I know that applied this round, ranging from TP FO's through to Jet captains, only one person got through to psychometric testing, most got the "Your application is not progressing for the the Second Officer role, but other companies in the group are interested and will be in touch" email.
Welcome to ‘recruit to group’. Funnily enough I haven’t heard of a single internal NOT getting an interview. Things are certainly changing for the better within the QANTAS group and they are realising looking after the employees they already have and offering career progression will pay dividends long term.
Nunc est bibendum
‘Pay dividends’? Depends on what outcome you are seeking as to whether you view the dividend being paid as a good thing or not. I’m all for offering a pathway for those within the group but if the result of that is a more capable pilot misses out from externally and we take someone less capable (but still ‘suitable’) internally then that’s may not be the best outcome for mainline in the long term.
Hi Keg
I 100% agree with you but as we all know it was the other way around for the last couple decades where it was an ‘unwritten rule’ that if you wanted to join QF go to Rex, if you wanted VA join Qlink. Imagine how many good guys they missed out on from the internals due to this policy. Works both ways.....
I 100% agree with you but as we all know it was the other way around for the last couple decades where it was an ‘unwritten rule’ that if you wanted to join QF go to Rex, if you wanted VA join Qlink. Imagine how many good guys they missed out on from the internals due to this policy. Works both ways.....
Isn’t that where QF will ‘train’ the less capable pilot to the appropriate standard?
At the moment capability isn’t helping employ you, it’s whether you tick all the HR focused boxes. Many a capable pilot have been turned down to not demonstrating a HR focused response in the interview.
At the moment capability isn’t helping employ you, it’s whether you tick all the HR focused boxes. Many a capable pilot have been turned down to not demonstrating a HR focused response in the interview.
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‘Pay dividends’? Depends on what outcome you are seeking as to whether you view the dividend being paid as a good thing or not. I’m all for offering a pathway for those within the group but if the result of that is a more capable pilot misses out from externally and we take someone less capable (but still ‘suitable’) internally then that’s may not be the best outcome for mainline in the long term.
Once upon a time perhaps....but I think most of us can see that this is not necessarily or consistently the case in these days of HR mumbo jumbo!
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WannabeBiggles, Keg will have a better idea of the numbers, but the word was that in the applications that closed recently there were roughly 800 applicants to mainline of whom some 300 were deemed uncompetitive at the application stage for whatever reason, leaving 500 for stage two.
Are you are implying that beacause some great guys and girls are missing out because of HR oddities, that somehow those that are successful are, by virtue of the fact that HR have liked them, not able to be considered as competent?
Those that have been successful to date put their application in early, realised they would have to play the game to progress and prepared themselves as best they could to make it so. Some went through, some didn’t.
Qantas, along with every other airline and even the ADF have been guilty of overlooking some tremendously capable people over the journey, while at the same time allowing some people you wouldn’t perhaps place in the same category to slip through. This isn’t a new development.
Qantas, along with every other airline and even the ADF have been guilty of overlooking some tremendously capable people over the journey
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It has been said elsewhere on this thread that experience doesn't count for anything with QF. This is absolutely true for the assessment day stage. However assuming the aforementioned rejection letters are being received prior to psychometric testing, it looks as though they're looking for resumes indicating previous jet airliner experience this time round, only because there's so many expat candidates from Asia and the Middle East with that sort of experience. There's guys and girls with a lot less time than 7000hrs being called up for testing but I think you'll find they have wide body jet FO or SO experience.
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[QUOTE. There's guys and girls with a lot less time than 7000hrs being called up for testing but I think you'll find they have wide body jet FO or SO experience.[/QUOTE]
Yep. I know of a few who went to Cathay 2 years ago with 300 hours total time. 18 months as a SO and now getting into mainline. Meanwhile the 7000 hour regional turboprop captains aren’t given the opportunity to sit aptitude testing. Makes you wonder.
Yep. I know of a few who went to Cathay 2 years ago with 300 hours total time. 18 months as a SO and now getting into mainline. Meanwhile the 7000 hour regional turboprop captains aren’t given the opportunity to sit aptitude testing. Makes you wonder.
