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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 12:29
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Road show's are usually a sign that they know their aren't enough applicants that are interested in them based on what information is available online so they'll send out the HR types to put a positive spin on things.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 13:01
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A road show can indicate within 2 minutes of scanning the room(s) how big and how fast the academy setup will need to be.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 21:02
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Gday morno. Note the roadshows are for the group and not mainline specific. So the ‘no ATPL subjects’ alluded to re the roadshow I suspect is targeted toward QLink and/or Network/ JQ. They simply want as many people in the room as possible. Mainline requirements as updated recently on the Qantas website still require ATPL subjects.

As per my previous comments I don’t reckon mainline is going to be short of applicants (this year) so my assessment of these roadshows is that they’re more targeting the other airlines in the group or gauging the level of active interest in the academy as Gligg alludes to.

Worth pointing out too that I’m no longer involved in pilot recruitment so I’ve only my assessment to offer. No inside knowledge to speak of.
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Road show's are usually a sign that they know their aren't enough applicants that are interested in them based on what information is available online so they'll send out the HR types to put a positive spin on things.
The battle for relevance is on..Getting HR/IR tentacles out of the Flight Operation takes a lot of undoing
Weasel words aside, Qantas careers have been a stagnant pond, with all growth directed at the 'wedge' they desired JQ to be.

Ever wonder why no other full service airline has a Low Fare Airline of the size of JQ?


There were about 1300 applications to process- not a very big number really considering the 9 year gap- and it’s simply taken until November last year to work through them all.
There are 200 pilots required this year.
There are very few CPL being issued, retirement rates are beginning to bite and again the smartest guys in the room are behind the curve.

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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 07:15
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Trick the newbie into thinking a position at the Link is a Qantas job, that is what the "roadshows" are about.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 11:17
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Trick the newbie into thinking a position at the Link is a Qantas job, that is what the "roadshows" are about.
Exactly...

It is amusing watching them do everything except acknowledge that their model of employee relations, of which terms and conditions are a component is a failure...
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 03:26
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Rated De,

No other full service airline has a low fare airline the size of Jetstar, because Qantas (and Virgin with Tiger) need to ensure there is no market gap for a third entrant. It's a strategy of protection given the uniqueness of the Australian domestic market and the proportion of profit achievable from this sector.

But back to Qantas pilot recruitment: Good luck to everyone applying!
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 04:00
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Originally Posted by Don Diego
Trick the newbie into thinking a position at the Link is a Qantas job, that is what the "roadshows" are about.
It will be interesting to see how many of the qlink pilots actually get into mainline in this next round of interviews...
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 04:09
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Originally Posted by Keg

The bigger issue is the model of opening up applications and taking 18 months to process the applicants. In the interim there are a number of great candidates who have already moved on to other airlines.
Exactly. Applicants are being placed onto a hold for for longer than 9 months, getting interviews with VB and a job within the month. Good applicants being lost for no reason. The processing times are completely unwarranted.
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 05:26
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Exactly. Applicants are being placed onto a hold for for longer than 9 months, getting interviews with VB and a job within the month. Good applicants being lost for no reason. The processing times are completely unwarranted.
Depends on which point of view..

For the eager HR practictioner an endless work cycle requires more resources. More resources mean more staff, more staff mean bigger empires..

Wash, rinse and repeat and one gets an insight into how the west was lost!

Of course the Operating Revenue withers on the vine as flights go uncrewed
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 06:35
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Props, if the big kahuna at Qlink had his way I guess the answer would be "not many", but he holds no trump cards in the game so mother Q will take what mother Q wants to take and just leave the ever growing mess for him to manage. Interesting EBA approaching.
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but he holds no trump cards in the game so mother Q will take what mother Q wants to take and just leave the ever growing mess for him to manage.
For decades they set pilot groups against each other, they actively stopped progression, promotion and transfer. Whole empires were built on it.

As it unravels it must be amusing to watch them fight among themselves...
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 08:55
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Sad rather than amusing but then again it has been that way ever since the greasy pole climber of the day made his statement in court.

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Old 25th Mar 2018, 03:13
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Any internals started online testing yet?
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Old 26th Mar 2018, 10:12
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Next five years, easy
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 15:28
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Originally Posted by startno1
Any internals started online testing yet?
Nobody I’ve flown with has yet but I’ve heard second hand that a few here at link have received emails to do it (Numbers range from 12 to 40; prune is for rumours right?). No idea on time frame or anything else of value though.
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 19:49
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Originally Posted by Props _are_for_boats
It will be interesting to see how many of the qlink pilots actually get into mainline in this next round of interviews...
A senior Checker from Qlink told me only yesterday that the majority of applicants from his patch for the QF S/O positions, were in fact Check and Training Captains!

Be interesting to see how many of those people they are prepared to let go?
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 23:32
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Internal testing has gone out
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 04:43
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Folks,
Have you all seen today's Australian, the article about Qantas lobbying for two year visas for (what was) 457 visa pilots to be extended to a minimum of five years.
Tootle pip!!
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Old 8th Apr 2018, 00:31
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All seems very quiet for this round of applications. Any idea of the numbers they received?
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