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Old 5th Jun 2017, 12:54
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The following is crystal ball gazing. I've got nothing official or unofficial. All of this info is freely available to any QF driver who can read their emails and do their maths.

Originally Posted by EJECT EJECT View Post
Given Qantas had announced they were looking for roughly 170 pilots when they opened recruitment last year, and this quota looks to be filled by the end of this year given the figures above.....
That was 170 to operate the first 8 787s. Given retirements, expansion of flying hours on the 737 and A330 fleets the actual number required by the time the first 8 787s arrive is likely to be closer to 250... or more. Heck, we'd taken 72 on the A330 before our first S/O started on the 787 so straight up that's 240.

Keep in mind the delivery schedule for all 8 787s has been accelerated so that all 8 arrive by the end of next year. With fixed dates and slots against a number aircraft beyond that- which admittedly QF may choose not to take up- it could be a big few years.

On the downside there are 5 744s due to leave. It only about three aeroplanes worth of capacity due to slow flying the fleet and current tight crewing numbers for the current number of airframes so I wouldn't expect a RIN on the 744 until early- mid 2019 at the earliest depending on where the current crew choose to jump to in the interim.
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 09:39
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In search for some advice..

I have been put through the recruitment process where everything's completed (I believe). It has been 6 weeks since a psych interview was conducted and I am yet to hear anything. I emailed them 3 weeks after the interview for a possible update and was told to sit tight. Has anyone else had to wait this long? Are the chances still good for a place on active hold? I have people in my ear saying no news is good news but I can't help but wonder, but remaining positive! Unfortunately for me it's also a case of missing out on certain endorsements and moving up the ranks which I totally understand from a business point of view.
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 11:10
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
The following is crystal ball gazing. I've got nothing official or unofficial. All of this info is freely available to any QF driver who can read their emails and do their maths.



That was 170 to operate the first 8 787s. Given retirements, expansion of flying hours on the 737 and A330 fleets the actual number required by the time the first 8 787s arrive is likely to be closer to 250... or more. Heck, we'd taken 72 on the A330 before our first S/O started on the 787 so straight up that's 240.

Keep in mind the delivery schedule for all 8 787s has been accelerated so that all 8 arrive by the end of next year. With fixed dates and slots against a number aircraft beyond that- which admittedly QF may choose not to take up- it could be a big few years.

On the downside there are 5 744s due to leave. It only about three aeroplanes worth of capacity due to slow flying the fleet and current tight crewing numbers for the current number of airframes so I wouldn't expect a RIN on the 744 until early- mid 2019 at the earliest depending on where the current crew choose to jump to in the interim.
The situation IMO is extremely fluid to say the least. Medical issues and early retirements are running very high. In one week in the last month they lost 4 Captains and one SO. Now il put in one more from left field. If Emerates are pulling out of Syd/Akl/Syd what are the chances they will want to get out of both Melbourne and Brisbane to Auckland? If this was to happen then Qantas would need more aircraft. What's the obvious solution? The 3 RR 747s. Personally, I don't think the company have any idea of retirement numbers, I know of 6 747 Captains who will be gone in the next 12 months, all prior to 60. They are not prepared for this. All in all IMO the next few years will see massive recruitment and training in Qantas. I hope time proves me correct!!!
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 11:43
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"Yeah i'll be gone by 60"

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Old 6th Jun 2017, 11:45
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Originally Posted by xaos03 View Post
In search for some advice..

I have been put through the recruitment process where everything's completed (I believe). It has been 6 weeks since a psych interview was conducted and I am yet to hear anything. I emailed them 3 weeks after the interview for a possible update and was told to sit tight. Has anyone else had to wait this long? Are the chances still good for a place on active hold? I have people in my ear saying no news is good news but I can't help but wonder, but remaining positive! Unfortunately for me it's also a case of missing out on certain endorsements and moving up the ranks which I totally understand from a business point of view.
If it helps I was on hold for over 15 months. I doubt if Qantas are any better at recruitment now than all those years ago.
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 12:40
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Originally Posted by Tankengine View Post
If it helps I was on hold for over 15 months. I doubt if Qantas are any better at recruitment now than all those years ago.
I'll take all the help I can get, appreciate the comforting words Tankengine!
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 13:21
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It has been 6 weeks since a psych interview was conducted and I am yet to hear anything
I wouldn't worry about it mate. I waited about 10 weeks before hearing anything after completing the process last year. My opinion is that if they've invested the money into sending you to do a psych then you're in with a decent chance. Assuming you're not a psychopath. But even then you never know
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 01:58
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Just to add to the uncertainty. Qantas haven't announced/decided where the next 787 route will be, so they can not allocate slots on the later aircraft as they don't know what base the pilots will be in. I'd guess this would effect new hire pilots too as they would probably need to tell you where you are going to be based before offering you the job.
If they were really smart, (which I hear they are not), they might even try to hire guys resident in certain cities to the base they live in. ie. if you live in Perth you might be more likely to get a 787 PER base position. This is just a guess though, but it could lead to further delays while we wait to find out where it will fly to/from.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 02:55
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How times have changed.Greater than 40 years ago following initial correspondence with QF I was given a file number. I contacted them 9 years later with AirForce time under belt and was given in quick succession flight tests and two interviews. Interviews with MANAGEMENT CAPTAINS which could only be described as open, welcoming and friendly.Final question from panel chair "Do you have any requests?" Yes I answered "can you give me as much notice as possible?" Chair rang me next day and said I had a job, just let us know the earliest you can leave the RAAF.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 03:35
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Originally Posted by maggot View Post
"Yeah i'll be gone by 60"

Yeah right
Captain I was flying with the other day is counting down the days to retirement this year...he's 57.

There's been a lot of medical situations where guys are now thinking, is it worth staying until 65? How much is enough to retire on and go live a happy life?
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 03:49
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I'd guess this would effect new hire pilots too as they would probably need to tell you where you are going to be based before offering you the job.
None of the guys with start dates up until the end of the year have been issued a basing yet. I don't believe that happens until just before you start when the contract is sent out.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 04:18
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Fair enough, I stand corrected.
Might be a bit tough for guys allocated to PER at the last minute with no staff travel for 6 months.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 08:16
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Although you may have a preference would you really turn down the in just because it is not where you want?
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 09:09
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron View Post
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
Might be a bit tough for guys allocated to PER at the last minute with no staff travel for 6 months.
6 months from start date or checkout? Need to operate to check out may take a little longer than usual? Would they be based syd until checkout? Or OOB allowances etc may come into play
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron View Post
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
Might be a bit tough for guys allocated to PER at the last minute with no staff travel for 6 months.
Typical east-coast-centric comment.
Not everyone is from the east coast. There are plenty of guys from all over the country who relocated to the east coast when they got the job and survived without staff travel for the first six months.
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Old 8th Jun 2017, 05:16
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Originally Posted by Fonz121 View Post
There are a fair few on the hold file too so I hope start dates are given for those before further recruitment proceeds.
My understanding of the 'hold' file is that you have no guarantees at all. If they find someone they like more, they'll take them, and you could remain on hold forever.
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Old 8th Jun 2017, 05:20
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Originally Posted by maggot View Post
"Yeah i'll be gone by 60"
I'm working on 63.5.

The US visa will be my cutoff point. I have no intention of going through that rubbish again.

Three of my friends are planning on going very soon. One is a little over 60, whilst the other two will be on their 60th.

As far as I know, nobody is giving the company any warning.
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Old 8th Jun 2017, 06:08
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Typical east-coast-centric comment.
Not everyone is from the east coast.
News flash buddy, 80% of the population live on the east coast and it is well known that commuting to PER is a tougher gig than on the east side. It's even proving tough to get enough bidders for the 737 PER F/O spots.
And yeah, I know not everyone lives on the east coast, that's why my previous post specifically mentioned guys who live in Perth ideally getting a base where they live.
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Old 8th Jun 2017, 06:29
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Originally Posted by Beer Baron View Post
News flash buddy, 80% of the population live on the east coast and it is well known that commuting to PER is a tougher gig than on the east side. It's even proving tough to get enough bidders for the 737 PER F/O spots.
And yeah, I know not everyone lives on the east coast, that's why my previous post specifically mentioned guys who live in Perth ideally getting a base where they live.
You're right, 80% of the population lives one the east and LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY! You can have your funnel web spiders and your toll roads, we'll enjoy our sunsets over the Indian Ocean and our 23.5 hours a day of no rush hour traffic.

You're also right about the tyranny of distance with commuting to/from Perth. OK for long haul but that's about it (though I do one guy who commuted AKL PER for an 100 gig!).
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Old 8th Jun 2017, 06:51
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Originally Posted by mrdeux View Post
I'm working on 63.5.

The US visa will be my cutoff point. I have no intention of going through that rubbish again.

Three of my friends are planning on going very soon. One is a little over 60, whilst the other two will be on their 60th.

As far as I know, nobody is giving the company any warning.
Correct and agree, but also the medicals every 6 months plus stress ECGs basically every 12 months. A pain in the backside.
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