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Old 26th Apr 2017, 08:14
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Originally Posted by A320 Flyer View Post
Are many people getting all the way through to successfully completing the medical and getting knocked back following that?
Plenty of cadets did back in September I think. Several who apparently had passed all the benchmarks (based on the feedback they received) got knocked back for trivial things at the executive review stage.
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Old 26th Apr 2017, 09:02
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FogBuster - do you have any examples of the "trivial things" that the Exec. Committee are knocking applicants back for?
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Old 26th Apr 2017, 11:14
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Not being prepared to wear a busted ring.

All the vouge now apparently.
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Old 26th Apr 2017, 11:53
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Originally Posted by Loopa12 View Post
FogBuster - do you have any examples of the "trivial things" that the Exec. Committee are knocking applicants back for?
Yes but it could be used to identify people, potentially damaging their careers more than QF already has. If you know any of the cadets/internals who've been knocked back ask them about their feedback and you'll quickly see what I mean.
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Old 26th Apr 2017, 13:18
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Are June/July courses full?
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Old 26th Apr 2017, 23:27
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Originally Posted by FogBuster View Post
Plenty of cadets did back in September I think. Several who apparently had passed all the benchmarks (based on the feedback they received) got knocked back for trivial things at the executive review stage.
Alleged breaches of QF policy probably aren't viewed as trivial at the executive review stage. Not saying that this is specific to the Sept mob you mentioned.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 02:49
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Originally Posted by Dunda View Post
Who said there was alleged breaches of qf policy discussed at the executive review? How would you know that crosscutter?
Touché. What would I know? I don't know. I do suspect hopefuls are not culled for no good reason and I'm tired of the blame shifting attitudes

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Old 27th Apr 2017, 04:07
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Originally Posted by crosscutter View Post
Touché. What would I know? I don't know. I do suspect hopefuls are not culled for no good reason and I'm tired of the blame shifting attitudes
You may be tired of blame shifting (although this is PPRuNe and collectively we're a whinge of pilots right?) but I'm tired of an HR department that trivialises our profession in a desperate attempt to validate their own.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 04:15
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I heard one cadet got knocked back for sitting too aggressively in the interview.
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Old 27th Apr 2017, 04:37
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Originally Posted by crosscutter View Post
Touché. What would I know? I don't know. I do suspect hopefuls are not culled for no good reason and I'm tired of the blame shifting attitudes
No. Smoke, fire. HR.
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 07:41
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Looking good if you want to be Brisbane based👍
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 08:39
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How so Sandy?
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 09:22
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Very Strong rumours the next 2 (5/6) will be brisbane based. Allocation for current pilots later in the year. Assume there would be a S/O base, as there is one for the A330. Just waiting on delivery confirmation is they chatter. Keg?
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 14:03
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G'day Sandy. Yeah. Had heard that but only on grape vine. Nothing more formal than that but it seems to dovetail with the rumoured plan for the aeroplanes from Dec last year.

Next 20ish 787 commands and F/O slots (and I presume 40ish S/O slots) to go to BNE. I think these will be the ones alluded to in the NTFS as potentially coming this training year depending on when the aeroplanes are slated to arrive in the second half of calendar year 2018. SYD base with similar numbers for aeroplanes 7 and 8 with similar numbers likely in FY 18/19.

If the order for more jets firms up then probably additional training slots in 18/19 depending on when they're slated for delivery after 1 Jul '19.

I recall a rumour from 12 or so months ago that our delivery slots for FY19/20 were for something like 11 aeroplanes. Of course QF may not take all of them (if the rumour is even true) but if they do it'll make the training load of this year and next look like child's play.

How QF deal with the S/O slots will be interesting given that PER and MEL S/Os should get first go at bidding for the transfer to BNE, etc. I wonder if we'll see a time when junior pilots are recruited to SYD 787 whilst more senior crew in PER can't bid back to SYD. I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 10:06
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With the 787 not operating until the end of the year, any news on how long new hires expect to be on the training salary? I've heard whispers of J* flying to get SOTs checked to line, but has anyone heard anything recently?
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Old 2nd May 2017, 23:22
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Originally Posted by ReBjorn View Post
Thanks for that C441, not having luck with old user/pass combo and it says to contact an admin when trying to do password reset.
Just toying with whether it'd be prudent to give HR an email, obviously don't want to harass but just want to make sure I haven't been lost in the migration!
Hi ReBjorn. Have you been able to log into the new Workday system to view your current application?
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Old 3rd May 2017, 00:05
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However, senior sources in the airline’s pilot ranks confirmed a new 787 pilot base would be set up in Brisbane to support a Dallas or Los Angeles-Brisbane-Perth-Paris operation.
From an article about QF starting PER-CDG in tandem with BNE-LAX or DFW. Sound more than a little vague, but there you go.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 00:38
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Where was that article Sandy?

Perth- Paris daily is two aeroplanes. BNE- LAX daily is two aeroplanes as well. I guess it's possible within the current airframes.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 00:56
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Looks like an impeccable source
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Old 3rd May 2017, 01:44
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Lol. Of course!

Perth to Paris would actually be better for pilots given it's an expansion route rather than simply replacing a 744 SYD- LAX- NYC.
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