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Old 23rd May 2023, 02:40
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Originally Posted by soseg
I could put forth the argument that if you fly a frame that only has the words Qantas on the side, not QantasLink, you should be getting a hefty pay rise.

Why?

Well, because thanks to AJ's divide+conquer and giving everything to subsidiaries, their future is bleek.

If you're lucky, right now, 19 years for a command.
Domestically everything keeps being given away to Network Aviation in the west, National Jet in the east, Alliance in the centre, JetConnect across the tasman.
Now even more international flying is being handed to Alliance/NJS.

Flight ops webinar for the 737 pilots and theyre literally telling them how the a220 is the future and how amazing it will be for the network and that might have a good business case for more than 29 of them.
Meanwhile the 737 fleet shrinks from 75 down to... 20? 40 if lucky?

International is sweet-F-all. Frames being cut up or converted then a few months later... oh no we need Finnair frames/pilots/cabincrew to fly out of Sydney.

Mainline is dying. The last legacy carrier in Australia has no future.

The future is being a QantasLink bin chicken or a budget Jetstar pilot. Or whatever VA is at the moment.
Stress & Skill:Reward ratio is probably better being a bus/train/tram driver.

That's one argument. Someone prove it wrong.
Going to be hard for someone to prove it wrong Soseg

Hit the nail on the head

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Old 23rd May 2023, 02:42
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Originally Posted by soseg
Someone prove it wrong.
Wait until mainline training year allocations are released within the upcoming weeks to confirm the future at mainline. If itís as big as has been suggested it would confirm a lot of movement ahead.



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Old 23rd May 2023, 05:56
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Wait until mainline training year allocations are released within the upcoming weeks to confirm the future at mainline. If itís as big as has been suggested it would confirm a lot of movement ahead.
Perhaps. Perhaps big when compared to the previous decade.

Could be a lot better if flying wasn't being sent to QLinks
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Old 23rd May 2023, 09:31
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Why do people think you should get paid more for flying bigger jets?
Because you generate more revenue.......
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Old 23rd May 2023, 12:06
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What a load of rubbish.
The QF pay system is based on the North American contract system out of the 1960s. The bigger the aircraft and the faster it flies, the more the pilot gets paid. Qf have never had a speed/ weight formula for pay but it’s little brother have served it’s pilots well.
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Old 23rd May 2023, 13:25
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Originally Posted by JamieMaree
What a load of rubbish.
The QF pay system is based on the North American contract system out of the 1960s. The bigger the aircraft and the faster it flies, the more the pilot gets paid. Qf have never had a speed/ weight formula for pay but itís little brother have served itís pilots well.
It's time to move out of the 1960s and into 2023... US$450k should do it.

Regardless of what you state the origin of these contracts are, we're only worth what we bargain and our ability to do so has been significantly obstructed by the lopsided industrial relations landscape. Labor have already made inroads with policy reform and look set to continue. Time will tell what it holds for us.
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Old 24th May 2023, 01:13
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
Because you generate more revenue.......
per flight maybe but per year Iím betting the narrow body and regional crews doing 4 sectors 5 days a week earn more revenue for the group than a 380 crew doing two trips a month
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Old 26th May 2023, 12:08
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Spot on maverick. What other profession is expected to fund the capex to purchase a new fleet? I don’t believe miners have to give up conditions so they can drive a new digger etc. Mean while certain groups will either get bent over and cave in, while others work on substandard wages for the chance to get a faster promotions. There is a reason why Mainline has only secured 20xlrs, be expected for more “consessions” or the threat of having it outsourced will be played on repeat. I’m not sure what the answer is, but if you look over the pond the US carriers seem to have a lot more spine than we do. There are a couple of big EBAs expiring over the next couple of years maybe some collective bargaining and having some balls will change the outcome.Hopefully these new IR reforms will work in our favour to lift the bottom up. If not I guess it’s more of the same. Hunting around like seagulls looking for a few chips on the ground thinking we’ve won the lottery.
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Old 26th May 2023, 12:29
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Sick leave and fuel.

Leave the company with zero of either.

Both make your life easier, either at home or at work, and theyíre about all you can directly influence these days.
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Old 26th May 2023, 22:43
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Originally Posted by boongcactus
Spot on maverick. What other profession is expected to fund the capex to purchase a new fleet? I donít believe miners have to give up conditions so they can drive a new digger etc. Mean while certain groups will either get bent over and cave in, while others work on substandard wages for the chance to get a faster promotions. There is a reason why Mainline has only secured 20xlrs, be expected for more ďconsessionsĒ or the threat of having it outsourced will be played on repeat. Iím not sure what the answer is, but if you look over the pond the US carriers seem to have a lot more spine than we do. There are a couple of big EBAs expiring over the next couple of years maybe some collective bargaining and having some balls will change the outcome.Hopefully these new IR reforms will work in our favour to lift the bottom up. If not I guess itís more of the same. Hunting around like seagulls looking for a few chips on the ground thinking weíve won the lottery.
Boong spot on could not agree more!
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Old 27th May 2023, 01:09
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Hunting around like seagulls looking for a few chips on the ground thinking we’ve won the lottery.
At the very least the A320 has a contract covering the crew unlike the E190 individual contracts played base against base for the flying. But don't forget they're painted as QantasLink and the punters know no different.

Upcoming EAs are a pivotal time for us all in all carriers. We must remain united. Trust in the process. Bring everyone with us.
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 04:06
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Anyone know of ground schools beyond June?
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 11:01
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Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Anyone know of ground schools beyond June?
No.

Hope this helps.
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 15:43
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Hi everyone! Just wondering on what everyone's thoughts were about where to apply if you want to fly from BNE or PER...
I'm a permanent resident (born in Belgium) and recently got my CASA ATPL and 4000 flight hours and will now be starting to apply to places...
Thanks a lot for any tips and guidance!
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Old 4th Jun 2023, 23:59
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August course full

Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Anyone know of ground schools beyond June?
yes heard about someone who got into the august course.
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Old 5th Jun 2023, 01:22
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Originally Posted by Bumble_Pilot
Anyone know of ground schools beyond June?
New Intake courses planned for every month of the rest of the year. Probably waiting to confirm dates and sim availability due to the large amount of Capt and FO training being done in the second half of the year.
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Old 5th Jun 2023, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Avi8terdude2023
yes heard about someone who got into the august course.
Internal or External?
Do you know when they got the yes?
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Old 5th Jun 2023, 10:35
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Originally Posted by On Guard
Internal or External?
Do you know when they got the yes?
im not sure as donít know them personally but when checking in I was told possibly not to expect anything this year and I got my yes last July.
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Old 6th Jun 2023, 09:17
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Attn: QFPP Graduates

I offer a little advice for the sky gods that have 'graduated' from QFPP in Zoowoomba.

You're failing your interviews for Qantas subsidiaries in spectacular fashion. Word is getting around.

Just because the word Qantas is loosely involved in your pilot training, does not mean that you are guaranteed a job at Qantas or any of its subsidiaries.

Please, prepare for your interviews properly. If you spent $100k or you're a female and got a Qantas grant for your training, at least spend $500 in an interview coaching session to prepare. Go to Flight Experience and do an introductory session to learn the characteristics of a jet.

Know your IFR knowledge back to front.

Sincerely, your future cockpit buddy.
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Old 7th Jun 2023, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Avi8terdude2023
im not sure as donít know them personally but when checking in I was told possibly not to expect anything this year and I got my yes last July.
Yes I was the same and was October yes. Think theyíre doing a lot of internal.
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