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Old 15th Aug 2022, 04:29
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Originally Posted by AviatoR21 View Post
If you want a job with Qantas make sure you know how to read and decipher a TAF3.
Qantas recruiter reading this will know everyone knows their TAF3 requirements. What fuel would you carry if your arriving 5 mins after alternate requirement is lifted at planning stage ?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 04:52
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That’s easy. Flight plan fuel plus one hour, same as always. 😎
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 06:20
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Originally Posted by Brakerider View Post
no disrespect man but this isn’t the bob tait forum…maybe go confirm by opening the AIP like everyone else
I have, and p121MOS s4 which I mention above. As usual it is clear as mud hence my asking here.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 06:46
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Ooo that’s a tough one. Alternate plus 1.0 for AD?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 11:01
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I was being sarcastic fellas! How does a discussion on TAF3’s have anything to do with Qantas recruitment….
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 12:33
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Originally Posted by AviatoR21 View Post
I was being sarcastic fellas! How does a discussion on TAF3’s have anything to do with Qantas recruitment….
It’s an interview question
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 02:13
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If you are unsure of an interview question just tell them you’ll study while you spend 4+ years on hold after spending a couple of grand on getting a Qantas medical just to be on the hold…
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 02:38
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I've got a question about alternates...

Oh oops...wrong page...disregard.

Whilst I'm here though, anyone know what bases are likely? I'm assuming 330s will be the prime type in the immediate future?
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 02:56
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Bases? Any TAF3 location.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 09:20
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Originally Posted by HappyBandit View Post
Whilst I'm here though, anyone know what bases are likely? I'm assuming 330s will be the prime type in the immediate future?
Last I heard approximately 80% going to 330 due to 787 training pipeline being a little full.

330 only has Syd and Bne as SO bases. Traditionally everyone has been hired into Sydney then bidded to transfer to Brissy. But just prior to the US flying, all Sydney SO’s that wanted Brissy got it.

So I guess in the foreseeable future it will just depend on what base needs numbers and if anyone is bidding for the other. Sydney would be most likely, at a guess, due to the larger amount of flying (and new destinations coming) and possibility of Brisbane losing flying.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 10:30
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Plus with the amount of recruitment mooted over the next few years it won’t be too long before a transfer to your favoured locale is available.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Sparrows. View Post
Last I heard approximately 80% going to 330 due to 787 training pipeline being a little full.

330 only has Syd and Bne as SO bases. Traditionally everyone has been hired into Sydney then bidded to transfer to Brissy. But just prior to the US flying, all Sydney SO’s that wanted Brissy got it.

So I guess in the foreseeable future it will just depend on what base needs numbers and if anyone is bidding for the other. Sydney would be most likely, at a guess, due to the larger amount of flying (and new destinations coming) and possibility of Brisbane losing flying.
Do you have any idea how they select the allocations? If you live in Perth already would you be more likely to be offered 787 than 330?
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:54
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Do you have any idea how they select the allocations?

I’ve heard from several folks that one’s preference is sought at the final interview, with no promises made. The typical courteous/diplomatic response goes along these lines;
”Thanks for asking. I’m keen to join Qantas asap but, if there were to be a choice, I’d say that my family’s location near (eg Sydney) would make that Base more desirable because we wouldn’t need to relocate. However, I would accept any Base I’m offered”.

Occasionally people have deferred their start by up to to few months in order to get their preferred base/type. That choice can have unintended consequences in terms of future extremes in one’s career; promotion choices and demotions/redundancies can/will be determined by time on the seniority list. Additionally, word on the street is that among the immediately pre-Covid joiners, many took several years LWOP (under duress) but have done ok by returning to previous work/locations/better pay & are in no particular hurry to return to QF as junior pilots (S/Os)…. Why would they? Once you’ve got a ‘seniority number’ it lasts forever until retirement.

So many choices!😜
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 22:12
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Take the first start date available, even if it means commuting for a short period of time.

Commuting in long haul isn’t too hard, just add an extra day per roster to fly into base before the trip (can fly back immediately after a trip), usually makes it an extra 2 days per roster away from home. It won’t be long until you get the desired LH base or a SH slot.

As long as you are living in one of the 5 major cities of course. If you’re living in a more regional location then that adds another layer of complexity into the equation, but some do maintain that lifestyle over their careers by choice.

But the benefit of getting on the seniority list ASAP is more important.

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 22:36
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Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 00:57
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Originally Posted by 717tech View Post
Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
I don't work there either but I personally know a new hire who has just done exactly that (but in the reverse to what you mention).
The individual I know had not actually started training for the type however so Ill leave it to someone with more know that I to mention any conditions or limitations with doing so.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 01:31
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Originally Posted by Jetsbest View Post
I’ve heard from several folks that one’s preference is sought at the final interview, with no promises made. The typical courteous/diplomatic response goes along these lines;
”Thanks for asking. I’m keen to join Qantas asap but, if there were to be a choice, I’d say that my family’s location near (eg Sydney) would make that Base more desirable because we wouldn’t need to relocate. However, I would accept any Base I’m offered”.
This is almost word-for-word the response I provided. So hopefully it is considered. Cheers!
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 07:41
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Originally Posted by 717tech View Post
Pure curiosity as I'm not involved with QF...
But, say you accept a SYD 330 SO slot, could you then "bid" to change to PER 787 SO? Or are you now committed to the 330 and it's associates bases?
If you can't bid to a different LH fleet, is it a matter of waiting till you have the seniority to bid for 787 FO?
This is the order of what position is considered a promotion, which you have the ability to bid for (provided you aren’t frozen etc). Any sideways movement or demotion is at the company’s discretion. In the current environment, I can’t see any extra training being done, except the over 65’s coming back to the 737.

So in your example of trying to be in Perth, if you were given 330 Syd, I can see 737 FO PER being the only viable/likely bid.


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Old 17th Aug 2022, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Sparrows. View Post
This is the order of what position is considered a promotion, which you have the ability to bid for (provided you aren’t frozen etc). Any sideways movement or demotion is at the company’s discretion. In the current environment, I can’t see any extra training being done, except the over 65’s coming back to the 737.

So in your example of trying to be in Perth, if you were given 330 Syd, I can see 737 FO PER being the only viable/likely bid.

What is a350sff so vs a350 so?

Also if you join now on current S/O salary and then bid for a350 in a few years, do you keep the better salary or revert to the a350 sunrise one?

Thanks.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 10:43
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Originally Posted by On Guard View Post
What is a350sff so vs a350 so?
Great question….. No idea.
Probably just future proofing themselves incase the 330 ever disappears and 350’s remain.

Originally Posted by On Guard View Post
Also if you join now on current S/O salary and then bid for a350 in a few years, do you keep the better salary or revert to the a350 sunrise one?
Like anyone joining, I’d suggest reading the EBA cover to cover. Rather than relying upon anonymous people hoping they give correct info.

If anyone joins prior to training commencing for 350 SO’s they are on the old 12 year (4 year for 787) pay scales for their entire career. No matter if they change fleet or seat.
However if you join after anyone has been recruited onto the 350, you will be on the new 4 year pay scales for all SO flying you do, regardless of fleet. Only transitioning to the old 12 year (4 year for 787)pay scales for Skipper and FO slots.
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