Qantas Recruitment

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by Bootstrap1

Are they recruiting engineers? Rumours are popping up that Joyce is going to sell off engineering and outsource all of their work. Because that would be great news to the flying public, not too mention on time performance.

Outsourcing positions that require relatively low levels of training, like baggage handling and catering, was done on the premise that it would be fairly simple for a contractor to quickly train up replacements for previous staff. Also seeing this with cabin crew, but on a more gradual long term scale, with premium legacy conditions becoming casualised temporary positions, and CC can be trained in several weeks with no formal qualifications so not that difficult.

Engineers (and pilots) different altogether. I’m not too sure about the exact requirements for AME and then LAME but when you need things like tertiary education, CASA licensing, apprenticeships, years of experience before upgrading etc you can’t exactly expect an outsourcing provider to come up with a large number of qualified staff in a short time frame, one that would be needed if you were suddenly going to outsource engineering work.

So I’d say the chance of having engineering jobs outsourced would be low, but probably subject to downward pressure on conditions in other areas like EBA negotiations.

[HappyBandit]

Originally Posted by SixDemonBag

Seems like every second person I fly with is ex qlink

I dare you to ask them how long it took to have the cuffs removed.

[On Guard]

Question

Hi

Just doing some study. Alternate requirements, can you confirm the weather applicable is eta at dest +\- 30 mins. Recalled in the past it was different? I got this from p121 MOS section 4

[On Guard]

Purely a TAF. If your eta is 1200z. Confirm you take account weather 1130-1230?

[mmm345]

Depends the nature of the weather. If it is removing an operational requiremnt ( ie holding fuel or alternate), it ceases 30 min after the end of its time frame ( ie if the bad weather stopped at 0200, the requirement is there until 0230).

If it is creating an operational requirement ( ie the weather was good but will soon turn to shit), the requirement comes in 30 min before its forecast time. For example if there was a FM 0200 of bad weather below alternate minima, the requirement is applicable and must be accounted for from 0130.

However, consider an example when the weather was below alternate minima and your ETA at the AD is 0210z, however a FM period from 0200z lifted the weather above the alternate minima. Since it is removing an operational requirement, the buffer period pushes this requirement out until 0230z. However, you dont need to plan an alternate even though weather is below minima, you just need holding fuel until the requirement is removed, ie 20 min.

[On Guard]

Originally Posted by mmm345

Depends the nature of the weather. If it is removing an operational requiremnt ( ie holding fuel or alternate), it ceases 30 min after the end of its time frame ( ie if the bad weather stopped at 0200, the requirement is there until 0230).

If it is creating an operational requirement ( ie the weather was good but will soon turn to shit), the requirement comes in 30 min before its forecast time. For example if there was a FM 0200 of bad weather below alternate minima, the requirement is applicable and must be accounted for from 0130.

However, consider an example when the weather was below alternate minima and your ETA at the AD is 0210z, however a FM period from 0200z lifted the weather above the alternate minima. Since it is removing an operational requirement, the buffer period pushes this requirement out until 0230z. However, you dont need to plan an alternate even though weather is below minima, you just need holding fuel until the requirement is removed, ie 20 min.

Thanks. So yes it looks like weather buffers are now 30/30. I thought they used to be 60/60? So if your eta is 1200 and FM 1245 creates an op requirement then we don’t need to take this into account.

Also so the same FM in a TAF3, how does this work? My reading says that the eta buffer is -30 and +60 and if the taf3 has no wx in this period then no alt required?

Thanks in advance.

[mmm345]

Originally Posted by On Guard

Thanks. So yes it looks like weather buffers are now 30/30. I thought they used to be 60/60? So if your eta is 1200 and FM 1245 creates an op requirement then we don’t need to take this into account.

Also so the same FM in a TAF3, how does this work? My reading says that the eta buffer is -30 and +60 and if the taf3 has no wx in this period then no alt required?

Thanks in advance.

Yes if your ETA was 1200 and the FM was from 1245 it would be no factor,

The reference material for TAF3 is ENR 1.1-73.

Basically if the AD has a TAF3 the first 3 hours of the TAF are treated differently. Any PROB forecast of visibility reductions below the alternate minimima or the PROB presence of TS doesnt require holding or ALT fuel ( however there normal presence absent of any PROB still requires alternate/holding). Additionally the 30 min buffers for FM BCMG are not applicable. So if there is a FM02z of bad weather and your ETA is 0159z, you legally dont require holding/alternate ( if you are still in the first 3 hours of the TAF3 validity)

[On Guard]

Originally Posted by mmm345

Yes if your ETA was 1200 and the FM was from 1245 it would be no factor,

The reference material for TAF3 is ENR 1.1-73.

Basically if the AD has a TAF3 the first 3 hours of the TAF are treated differently. Any PROB forecast of visibility reductions below the alternate minimima or the PROB presence of TS doesnt require holding or ALT fuel ( however there normal presence absent of any PROB still requires alternate/holding). Additionally the 30 min buffers for FM BCMG are not applicable. So if there is a FM02z of bad weather and your ETA is 0159z, you legally dont require holding/alternate ( if you are still in the first 3 hours of the TAF3 validity)

ok great. And the last thing confusing me is from p121 MOS section 4.05. It says the estimated time of use of a destination is eta +\- 30 mins. So back to my original example, my eta is 1200, then the time of use is 1130-1230. So then I think a FM at 1245 would apply, it would have to be 1301 to not apply?

Thoughts?

[mmm345]

Originally Posted by On Guard

ok great. And the last thing confusing me is from p121 MOS section 4.05. It says the estimated time of use of a destination is eta +\- 30 mins. So back to my original example, my eta is 1200, then the time of use is 1130-1230. So then I think a FM at 1245 would apply, it would have to be 1301 to not apply?

Thoughts?

Im not too familiar with the P121 notion of estimated time of use sorry, maybe someone with more familiarity might have a better idea of its signficance.

[AviatoR21]

If you want a job with Qantas make sure you know how to read and decipher a TAF3.

[On Guard]

Originally Posted by AviatoR21

If you want a job with Qantas make sure you know how to read and decipher a TAF3.

Thanks. TTF was in place last I was in aus hence getting my head around this. Can you confirm essentially TAF3 is a TTF, valid for 3 hrs from issue, reissued every 3 hrs. Buffers do not apply in the taf3 period and was it prob 30 and 40 ignored?

thanks

[Brakerider]

Originally Posted by On Guard

Thanks. TTF was in place last I was in aus hence getting my head around this. Can you confirm essentially TAF3 is a TTF, valid for 3 hrs from issue, reissued every 3 hrs. Buffers do not apply in the taf3 period and was it prob 30 and 40 ignored?

thanks

no disrespect man but this isn’t the bob tait forum…maybe go confirm by opening the AIP like everyone else

[KAPAC]

Originally Posted by AviatoR21

If you want a job with Qantas make sure you know how to read and decipher a TAF3.

Qantas recruiter reading this will know everyone knows their TAF3 requirements. What fuel would you carry if your arriving 5 mins after alternate requirement is lifted at planning stage ?

[Australopithecus]

That’s easy. Flight plan fuel plus one hour, same as always. 😎

[On Guard]

Originally Posted by Brakerider

no disrespect man but this isn’t the bob tait forum…maybe go confirm by opening the AIP like everyone else

I have, and p121MOS s4 which I mention above. As usual it is clear as mud hence my asking here.

[cloudsurfng]

Ooo that’s a tough one. Alternate plus 1.0 for AD?

[AviatoR21]

I was being sarcastic fellas! How does a discussion on TAF3’s have anything to do with Qantas recruitment….

[On Guard]

Originally Posted by AviatoR21

I was being sarcastic fellas! How does a discussion on TAF3’s have anything to do with Qantas recruitment….

It’s an interview question

[aussieflyboy]

If you are unsure of an interview question just tell them you’ll study while you spend 4+ years on hold after spending a couple of grand on getting a Qantas medical just to be on the hold…

[HappyBandit]

I've got a question about alternates...

Oh oops...wrong page...disregard.

Whilst I'm here though, anyone know what bases are likely? I'm assuming 330s will be the prime type in the immediate future?