Qantas Recruitment

[Roj approved]

Originally Posted by t_cas

There is a certain irony to all of this.

If it is a ferry flight or freight, it is irrelevant to the practical considerations.

When 2 pilots are on board to operate a flight and INFLIGHT a medical emergency takes place that MAY require first aid……

HOW will one of the 2 pilots remain at the controls whilst the ONE pilot deals with administering first aid to the other ONE pilot having an event?

It is pretty clear that securing interference of controls whilst Landing ASAP (in control) is the only outcome that is possible without contravention of the regulations that appear to be regulating First Aid certification. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This is GOLD t_cas, pure GOLD!!;-)

[tossbag]

if your too cheap to pay $100 for a first aid certificate to be eligible for a job

Because that's all it is right? Just $100 for a first aid cert, there's no other 'little' one off costs right, just that one.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by woke2022

enough arguing about CARs / if your too cheap to pay $100 for a first aid certificate to be eligible for a job you really want then please dont join an airline or you'll be the guy taking the toilet rolls of the plane

Moving on. Anyone heard much? are they doing it in stages after a group have done online aptitude inviting them for interviews or waiting until all applicants complete online testing?

What about the $1400 medical that had to be completed prior to be offered a spot on the hold file…

But wait, if your an internal applicant your already employed/paid/required to abide by Qantas and their policies… why should you be paying anything?? You chump are the reason the race to the bottom continues.

[t_cas]

Originally Posted by woke2022

enough arguing about CARs / if your too cheap to pay $100 for a first aid certificate to be eligible for a job you really want then please dont join an airline or you'll be the guy taking the toilet rolls of the plane

Moving on. Anyone heard much? are they doing it in stages after a group have done online aptitude inviting them for interviews or waiting until all applicants complete online testing?

I expect you may have supported the qualification of “working from heights” requirements as well?

[SixDemonBag]

Toilet rolls are a valuable commodity

[regitaekilthgiwt]

Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist

Every ferry / freight flight I’ve seen / done is heavy crewed.

That’s funny. You don’t work for Qf then.

[kjvmw]

Yes a lot of people

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by woke2022

any update on the recruitment front? Are people progressing from testing to interviews etc?

I know about 5 turboprop drivers who have completed interviews and sim rides but nothing past that.

[TimmyTee]

Anecdotally, appears to be more progress for pilots from some airlines, and less from others overall

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by TimmyTee

Anecdotally, appears to be more progress for pilots from some airlines, and less from others overall

Heard of anyone getting to the hold file stage?

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by Ladloy

Heard of anyone getting to the hold file stage?

Is this the same hold file that has people from 2018 on it?

[Sparrows.]

Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

Is this the same hold file that has people from 2018 on it?

Yes.

And that hold file is forecast to be empty by October. Apparently

130 SO’s to be recruited over the next 12 months.

[Ladloy]

Originally Posted by Sparrows.

Yes.

And that hold file is forecast to be empty by October. Apparently

130 SO’s to be recruited over the next 12 months.

I heard almost 300 required or is it 130 externally?

[TimmyTee]

Will the 321s coming to short haul create or reduce recruitment opportunities at QF?

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by TimmyTee

Will the 321s coming to short haul create or reduce recruitment opportunities at QF?

Create opportunities, as long as the variations are voted up and the aircraft comes to mainline of course

[stillcallozhome]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Create opportunities, as long as the variations are voted up and the aircraft comes to mainline of course

Don’t see how it’s creating jobs as it’s a replacement for the 737. There’s only growth if the 737s are staying - which they’re not.

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by stillcallozhome

Don’t see how it’s creating jobs as it’s a replacement for the 737. There’s only growth if the 737s are staying - which they’re not.

You’ll need more pilots for a new aircraft type to cover instructors, those absent during training etc.

The A321 will cover existing domestic plus potentially more short haul Asian routes, which would be growth above the current numbers. While the 737 remains you’ll still be training pilots on to that.

[stillcallozhome]

Originally Posted by dr dre

You’ll need more pilots for a new aircraft type to cover instructors, those absent during training etc.

The A321 will cover existing domestic plus potentially more short haul Asian routes, which would be growth above the current numbers. While the 737 remains you’ll still be training pilots on to that.

Sounds like an overlap to me. Doesn’t seem very cost effective to hire crews to cover instructors being trained and conversions for existing pilots.

I agree with 321 doing Asian routes which COULD replace 330. Won’t need as many crew either because it’s not on LH award.

DA said it’s a fleet replacement. This seems a 1 for 1 swap at this stage. The only reason it’s the 321 first is so they can squeeze for the variation I reckon. Rest will be 320s in a like for like swap.

Just my 2c.

[Flyonthewall2020]

Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima

I don't think the current version of the cadet scheme is anywhere near the same as the old version, which included industry placement. The current one seems like a fast food franchise (operations conducted by a third party but with visits from head shed to keep an eye on things, some mentoring and to validate the logo on the front door). Two graduates were in a recent QLink intake of Dash 8 FOs.

I can confirm this as a current student, it is a bit of a sausage factory and they vaguely tell you that this is not a cadetship and is entirely run by FTA with Qantas reps coming in every couple of months. The academy does an intake of about 10-20 students every 7 weeks, already upto 18 groups so far with ~100+ graduates in about 2 years. They have plans to ramp up to 250 students a year.

The course is approx. 56 weeks with the only break being a couple of days over Christmas, no other public holidays throughout the year are observed. GS being 8-5 Mon-Fri and flying phases are 6 days a week, very fatiguing/students do burn out.

At the end of it you get CPL, MEIR, ATPL theory and MCC (approx. 150-200 hours total time). You get a spot in the Qantas group future pilot program and then they send you on your way with a big graduation ceremony (noting you still graduate if you have failed ATPL subjects and still need to pass them, it's on you to do this in your own time afterwards).

So far graduates seem to either look for GA jobs up north or get their instructors rating and come back and instruct at the academy, many are on the first job hunt. I've heard of about 2 or 3 graduates so far getting into Qlink. Will be interesting how we fair post covid, whether we've been suckered in with the branding or we'll be given a leg up for Qlink jobs.

[SHVC]

Originally Posted by Flyonthewall2020

The course is approx. 56 weeks with the only break being a couple of days over Christmas, no other public holidays throughout the year are observed. GS being 8-5 Mon-Fri and flying phases are 6 days a week, very fatiguing/students do burn out.

They’re just preparing them for when they get on the line.