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Old 6th Feb 2019, 06:35
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Originally Posted by *Lancer* View Post


Internals receive longer notice periods due to the coordination afforded subsidiaries.

Just because no external applicants may have a start date in July yet, won’t necessarily mean there aren’t any externals in July.
Thanks for your reply Lancer. Hope that is the case!
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 12:08
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It triggers me when I read that a pilot has "resigned from the Qantas Group" because they are going to only receive a measly 4 weeks notice for a mainline job. Left or right seat, it doesn't matter - in this industry it pays to be unencumbered by anything opposing a lifestyle change.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 22:24
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Anyone Willing to provide a best guess/idea as to when applications will open again?
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 04:56
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Originally Posted by uhoh View Post
Anyone Willing to provide a best guess/idea as to when applications will open again?
All of this is guess work at best however with a healthy hold file ( there are people still getting slots from the 2016 recruitment drive) and a focus more on the school opening later in the year, I would hazard a guess at not before this time next year at the earliest
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 09:23
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Originally Posted by spondonicle View Post
It triggers me when I read that a pilot has "resigned from the Qantas Group" because they are going to only receive a measly 4 weeks notice for a mainline job. Left or right seat, it doesn't matter - in this industry it pays to be unencumbered by anything opposing a lifestyle change.
It had a lot more to do with the lifestyle in which Qantas was going to control. Seat changes yes were part of the problem as every seat change came with another move for the family unless you stayed in the same place and commuted. The 4 weeks notice was a problem when your moving back from overseas. Your husband and children also have to be happy with that. Fortunately other airlines are offering similar deal. No back seat driving, same base for seat changes and a career prospect for the next 20 or so years. Why get caught up in the race for the top at Qantas when you don't have to. I can completely understand and applaud her for going for a job that benifits herself and her family and not just herself.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 09:43
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Do you want the job or not? It is for you to decide. If you want to be prissy about it, who would want to employ you? You are an potential employee that rings all thealarm bells about be a future drama queen.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 09:57
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Originally Posted by Hold_Short View Post
It had a lot more to do with the lifestyle in which Qantas was going to control. Seat changes yes were part of the problem as every seat change came with another move for the family unless you stayed in the same place and commuted. The 4 weeks notice was a problem when your moving back from overseas. Your husband and children also have to be happy with that. Fortunately other airlines are offering similar deal. No back seat driving, same base for seat changes and a career prospect for the next 20 or so years. Why get caught up in the race for the top at Qantas when you don't have to. I can completely understand and applaud her for going for a job that benifits herself and her family and not just herself.
I understand your point. I guess I've just never heard of anyone turning down a jet job.

I suppose everyone is in a different situation and good on her for finding what she needed.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Hold_Short View Post
It had a lot more to do with the lifestyle in which Qantas was going to control. Seat changes yes were part of the problem as every seat change came with another move for the family unless you stayed in the same place and commuted. The 4 weeks notice was a problem when your moving back from overseas. Your husband and children also have to be happy with that. Fortunately other airlines are offering similar deal. No back seat driving, same base for seat changes and a career prospect for the next 20 or so years. Why get caught up in the race for the top at Qantas when you don't have to. I can completely understand and applaud her for going for a job that benifits herself and her family and not just herself.
For what it's worth:

You can change seats in any base, it just may not be the first opportunity to do so.
The last F/O slot was formally awarded to an individual 2 weeks after they started (informally, it may happen sooner).
Notice periods may be variable. Cathay pilots often require 3 months for example, and many pilots have deferred start dates due to births etc.

Good luck to your mate, although any race at Qantas - like anywhere - is entirely the individuals' choice.

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Old 7th Feb 2019, 21:03
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Originally Posted by *Lancer* View Post


For what it's worth:

You can change seats in any base, it just may not be the first opportunity to do so.
The last F/O slot was formally awarded to an individual 2 weeks after they started (informally, it may happen sooner).
Notice periods may be variable. Cathay pilots often require 3 months for example, and many pilots have deferred start dates due to births etc.

Good luck to your mate, although any race at Qantas - like anywhere - is entirely the individuals' choice.
Also east coast 737 slots very junior, bne etc.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 23:34
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Originally Posted by wombat watcher View Post
Do you want the job or not? It is for you to decide. If you want to be prissy about it, who would want to employ you? You are an potential employee that rings all thealarm bells about be a future drama queen.
Yep, it does look like we dodged a problem there.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 23:56
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Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

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Old 8th Feb 2019, 02:51
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

You are so right, there is more to life.
Of course the thread name is “Qantas Recruitment “.
If you are not interested that is just fine, equally - if you are not interested then Qantas is better off without you!
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 04:25
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

Firstly, the person who has chosen another career path other than the QF group has neither posted here nor stuck her head up to warrant personal criticism. Another poster has relayed information.

Secondly, I believe, what has many on here tapping on the keyboard is the suspicion that her interpretation of what is best for her lifestyle and family is quite likely misguided and has been clouded by a short term ‘win’. As others have said, once you are in Mainline, no one forces you to a base change or promotion. There are flexible working arrangements available if warranted and numerous career options for that ‘next stage of life’.

It is hard to understand her decision based on the reality of ground zero at QF at the moment...(ps..I don’t know any personal circumstances in this case, nor am I saying a wrong decision has been made or saying what she should have done...just saying in my opinion, based on a strong sample size and bell distribution of brand new recruits (mostly around 30yrs or older) her supposed logic in coming to her decision is very questionable.)

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Old 8th Feb 2019, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Chadzat View Post
Soo many QF skygods here! Might seem surprising to some but there IS more to life than getting a ‘jet job’ at Qantas. Some people value lifestyle over being able to tell people they are a Qantas Pilot.....

What’s wrong with putting your hat in the ring then pulling it out when it is clear that the job offered won’t fit your lifestyle/family commitments?

You lost me at Skygod...
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 19:30
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Exactly. We all have choices and we interview companies we want to work for just as much as they interview us. If, for some reason what they are offering in a total package does not suit yourself or your family, then you CAN CHOOSE to not take the job if offered.

This is lady is not the only person who has rejected Qantas over the past few years. Qantas are in a position to dangle a carrot and it’s up to the general pilot demographic to decide if they want it or not. Many moons ago there were not many options however in today’s world there is plenty. She has also been flying a jet for the company and so moving onto the mothership is not going to be of benefit if each opportunity which comes up (seniority depicted) within requires a move to another city. She is completely aware that for many others this is fine, she herself does not want to commute and or move the family any more. She has moved for aviation 8 times already, so when do you stop? She was content with her current position and found she did not need the change to complete her career.

I completey understood and and respected this. There are a lot more considerations to be made as we get older and having the responsibility of children and a marriage can and is for some more important. Her dealings with the recruiters and the total process was fine it was simply the total package. She can stay where she lives and move seats when she is abled to do so all from the comfort of her home.

If you are young and driven by the desire to climb the seniority ladder for promotion then by all means it seems a fantastic job.
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 19:58
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TL, just like when you can’t tell who the annoying person in the room is, perhaps the same applies when you can’t work out who the Skygod(s) in the room are..
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 23:14
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TL, just like when you can’t tell who the annoying person in the room is, perhaps the same applies when you can’t work out who the Skygod(s) in the room are..
Yeh, good one!

Anyway, back on topic - QF Recruitment. Let the next generation of Skygods fulfil their dreams
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 22:18
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Anyway, back on topic - QF Recruitment. Let the next generation of Skygods fulfil their dreams
So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 08:31
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So as a mid-40’s bloke looking for one of those shiny jet jobs after 20 years of turboprops, have I missed the window to make the change. A cruizy SO gig sounds appealing right now but I do enjoy the left-hand seat, will I be nearing retirement before I see a LHS again...and 1-2 years just to get through the door!
I believe the most of us have unfortunately missed the qf boat.

Applications open for 2 weeks each 18 months during a so called pilot shortage.

Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.

I still try to remain positive and hope applications open again this year, keeping all options both in Aus and abroad open though.

Good luck to everyone.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 09:11
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Looks like being in the group counts for more than experience, aptitude, personality etc.
How do you know what the experience, aptitude and personality of the internal applicants are? A candidate from the group is a known entity. An external applicant is not.

Although I’ll admit that the odd internal applicant has slipped through the net with a less than perfect track record.

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