Qantas non-stop PER to LHR?
@ Halas -
The state and federal Government is putting millions of tax payers dollars into this arrangement to provide services, e.g. Border force operating out of the domestic terminal and other infrastructure mods.
Not sure what you mean about tax payer shenanigans.
Yes indeed, a private company (Perth Airport Ltd) and a publicly listed 51% Australian owned company have convinced the taxpayers representatives to cough up around $20 million (that they admit to) to further their commercial interests.
There is a perfectly suitable international terminal staffed and with duty free shops only a short (12 mins) bus trip away.
Well played QF.
There is a perfectly suitable international terminal staffed and with duty free shops only a short (12 mins) bus trip away.
Well played QF.
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Yes indeed, a private company (Perth Airport Ltd) and a publicly listed 51% Australian owned company have convinced the taxpayers representatives to cough up around $20 million (that they admit to) to further their commercial interests.
There is a perfectly suitable international terminal staffed and with duty free shops only a short (12 mins) bus trip away.
Well played QF.
There is a perfectly suitable international terminal staffed and with duty free shops only a short (12 mins) bus trip away.
Well played QF.
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Korean and Asiana both have 2-hour turnarounds for their 380s at JFK, but those are in the morning when the airport is less busy. AF schedules 3 hours and is on the ground at the same time as QF. The four Emirates services are blocked at 2h25, 2h40, 3h20, and 2h20 on the ground.
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The QF A380 is turned around in 90 minutes in DXB.
I operated QF10 DXB to MEL on Wednesday and the ground staff were lamenting the fact. Not sure what services it applies to but certainly QF10 on that day.
We did push 1 minute late though.
I operated QF10 DXB to MEL on Wednesday and the ground staff were lamenting the fact. Not sure what services it applies to but certainly QF10 on that day.
We did push 1 minute late though.

The QF A380 is turned around in 90 minutes in DXB.
Qantas set the standards required of handling agents for their t/rounds and transits. Just maybe Qantas requires a higher level of cleanliness and cabin presentation for its passengers, especially on very long sectors, than do other carriers? Slot availability may also play a part in what ground time is scheduled.
You have to be joking. The buses only run every 20-30 mins, so if you miss one because your bag took a while to appear, you've a wait on your hands and suddenly a very tight transfer. Also, they are picky about who can get on (you have to have a printed, paper intinerary, none of this new-fangled phone business is acceptable), so whilst the buses are reasonably comfy, it is absolutely not a service designed for constant use. It is designed for the very occasional transfer punter; there is no way it could cope with the numbers. A same-terminal transfer is a no-brainer. In any case governments use taxpayer funds to invest in lots of things on a regular basis, this is no different.
Edit to add: Bags would be checked through wouldn't they, if it operates how the PR department claims it will, Sydney or Melbourne or Adelaide passengers connecting to the London service in Perth, bags would be tagged at joining in the East and so pax would not need to wait in Perth for bags anyway.
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The QF A380 is turned around in 90 minutes in DXB.
Dnata also has the "luxury" of being able to throw an entire army of low-paid workers at a turn, which is not something that can be done at a place like JFK or LAX.
And while it's nice that the ground staff at DXB can turn a 380 in 90 minutes, the QF10 is scheduled for 125 minutes on the ground. QF9 and QF1 are also blocked at 2h00; QF2 is 1h50.
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to New York, Boston and Washington DC
DIRECT flights from Sydney to New York could be possible as soon as 2022, according to Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.
In an interview withAustralian Financial Review, Mr Joyce revealed the airline is considering replacing its fleet of Boeing 747s with new-generation jets such as Airbus A350s or Boeing 777s, which can fly significantly further.
“[From Sydney or Melbourne] they can go straight to New York, Boston and Washington DC, and that is a complete contextual redesign of our network right there,” he told journalist Joe Aston.
According to Boeing vice president Mark Jenks, the manufacturer’s main focus is fuel efficiency, rather than speed.
It’s a significant drawcard to a company like Qantas that spends approximately $3 billion burning jet fuel each year.
“At the moment, Sydney-New York is probably OK,” Mr Joyce said.
Longer flights will, however, take a greater toll on passenger health.
Qantas is investing a significant amount of money at the University of Sydney to study the effects of the timing of meals, as well as cabin lighting and temperature, on ultra-long-haul passengers.
“There’s no medical evidence to suggest punctuating a really long journey with a stopover is preferable to a single hop,” Mr Joyce told theFinancial Review
“But we also know we can’t just ‘stretch’ the service plan from a 12-hour flight to fit 17 hours.”
It comes just one month after the airlinestruck a deal to commence non-stop flights from Perthto London in early 2018, using brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
Boeing said Qantas is installing fewer seats on its Dreamliners
than other airlines, which will significantly help with passenger comfort.
The aircraft destined to cover the new route will have 236 seats instead of the usual 300, which will also maximise range by decreasing weight.
The agreement with Perth Airport had a few hiccups, notably concerning a disagreement about which terminal would be upgraded as a hub for the service, but it was eventually resolved in Qantas’s favour.
The route will become the longest passenger flight in the world, and Mr Joyce described it as “game-changing”.
“When Qantas created the Kangaroo Route to London in 1947, it took four days and nine stops. Now it will take just 17 hours from Perth non-stop,” he said.
The current route takes 23 hours, with a short stopover in Singapore.
“Australians have never had a direct link to Europe before, so the opportunities this opens up are huge.”
Five of the 747s currently operating will be replaced with eight new Dreamliners between October this year and May 2019.
In an interview withAustralian Financial Review, Mr Joyce revealed the airline is considering replacing its fleet of Boeing 747s with new-generation jets such as Airbus A350s or Boeing 777s, which can fly significantly further.
“[From Sydney or Melbourne] they can go straight to New York, Boston and Washington DC, and that is a complete contextual redesign of our network right there,” he told journalist Joe Aston.
According to Boeing vice president Mark Jenks, the manufacturer’s main focus is fuel efficiency, rather than speed.
It’s a significant drawcard to a company like Qantas that spends approximately $3 billion burning jet fuel each year.
“At the moment, Sydney-New York is probably OK,” Mr Joyce said.
Longer flights will, however, take a greater toll on passenger health.
Qantas is investing a significant amount of money at the University of Sydney to study the effects of the timing of meals, as well as cabin lighting and temperature, on ultra-long-haul passengers.
“There’s no medical evidence to suggest punctuating a really long journey with a stopover is preferable to a single hop,” Mr Joyce told theFinancial Review
“But we also know we can’t just ‘stretch’ the service plan from a 12-hour flight to fit 17 hours.”
It comes just one month after the airlinestruck a deal to commence non-stop flights from Perthto London in early 2018, using brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
Boeing said Qantas is installing fewer seats on its Dreamliners
than other airlines, which will significantly help with passenger comfort.
The aircraft destined to cover the new route will have 236 seats instead of the usual 300, which will also maximise range by decreasing weight.
The agreement with Perth Airport had a few hiccups, notably concerning a disagreement about which terminal would be upgraded as a hub for the service, but it was eventually resolved in Qantas’s favour.
The route will become the longest passenger flight in the world, and Mr Joyce described it as “game-changing”.
“When Qantas created the Kangaroo Route to London in 1947, it took four days and nine stops. Now it will take just 17 hours from Perth non-stop,” he said.
The current route takes 23 hours, with a short stopover in Singapore.
“Australians have never had a direct link to Europe before, so the opportunities this opens up are huge.”
Five of the 747s currently operating will be replaced with eight new Dreamliners between October this year and May 2019.
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Ben Sandilands has been critical of QF for the number of toilets on the B787-9 saying it will be a nightmare should 1 or more toilets go u/s. Virgin Atlantic has begun LHR-HKG-LHR with the B787-9 and with 198 economy seats there are only 4 toilets in the Y cabin. Totally inadequate for the Chinese bladder. A sign of the times I guess.
Radio report on 6PR today that Air New Zealand are planning to operate their B787 AKL-PER-LHR. This will p..s off AJ.
Ps. Anyone remember when NZ operated SYD-LAX-SYD nonstop ?
Ps. Anyone remember when NZ operated SYD-LAX-SYD nonstop ?