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Best bet is to book Europe 2-6 months out. I just returned from London on Etihad, $1200 return from Melbourne and each leg in on the A380...and this is peak season.
Saw Italy/Ireland for travel later this year $1000 return on Etihad and Qatar few weeks back.
Forget booking a year ahead. EY/QR are the two to watch.
Saw Italy/Ireland for travel later this year $1000 return on Etihad and Qatar few weeks back.
Forget booking a year ahead. EY/QR are the two to watch.
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Best bet is to book Europe 2-6 months out. I just returned from London on Etihad, $1200 return from Melbourne and each leg in on the A380...and this is peak season.
Saw Italy/Ireland for travel later this year $1000 return on Etihad and Qatar few weeks back.
Forget booking a year ahead. EY/QR are the two to watch.
Saw Italy/Ireland for travel later this year $1000 return on Etihad and Qatar few weeks back.
Forget booking a year ahead. EY/QR are the two to watch.
There are now certainly going to be some major cutbacks or failures as world economy shudders.
$700 return fares to USA from BNE, SYD, MEL & OOL are people start to think these are "normal" fares.
Still the best time to book USA at Christmas is Feb. We go to USA/Canada 2-3 times a year & apart from start of GFC (2007?) have never seen Christmas fares to North America cheaper in Feb. Can get subload fares, but who wants to go subload in busy Christmas holidays.
I'm signed up with the ME 3 for emails of their special offers. Generally there will be a sale on 3 or 4 times a year and if you can book about 3 months in advance there are some good deals available.
SCOOT have seats with additional legroom available, a sale fare on their business class could be a good deal compared to a normal full service airline fare. Some previously non profitable routes to secondary European cities could be opening up next year. Whilst Emirates have good European coverage their fares can be on the high side where they have little competition.
Turkish Airlines operate narrow bodies to secondary cities in Europe not covered by the ME 3 and given recent events may have some cheap fares on offer.
I try to avoid the B787 in 9 across and the B777 in 10 across configurations.
SCOOT have seats with additional legroom available, a sale fare on their business class could be a good deal compared to a normal full service airline fare. Some previously non profitable routes to secondary European cities could be opening up next year. Whilst Emirates have good European coverage their fares can be on the high side where they have little competition.
Turkish Airlines operate narrow bodies to secondary cities in Europe not covered by the ME 3 and given recent events may have some cheap fares on offer.
I try to avoid the B787 in 9 across and the B777 in 10 across configurations.
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I once found some cheap paint, and painted the interior of our old house....I had to buy the stuff again and paint again it was that weak and watery, and someone then told, 'there's no such thing as cheap paint'
I once found some cheap fares on Scoot.......(Or was that cheap pain?)
I once found some cheap fares on Scoot.......(Or was that cheap pain?)
I once found some cheap paint, and painted the interior of our old house....I had to buy the stuff again and paint again it was that weak and watery, and someone then told, 'there's no such thing as cheap paint'
I once found some cheap fares on Scoot.......(Or was that cheap pain?)
I once found some cheap fares on Scoot.......(Or was that cheap pain?)
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Air Asia X has been talking about going back to Europe/UK recently. Expect this may now happen sooner rather than later.
& Cebu Pacific could do a 2 stop flight to Europe from Sydney, as don't think their A330's could do MNL/Europe with a full load.
& Cebu Pacific could do a 2 stop flight to Europe from Sydney, as don't think their A330's could do MNL/Europe with a full load.
The Cebu 330's are 300's so don't have the centre tank activated which reduces the range as compared to the -200 but the bigger issue with them is that they have the machine configured for 460 odd seats, which is an incredible number of punters
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ce...c_A330-300.php
The Qantas 300's have about 296 seats.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qa...s_A330-300.php
I can't imagine doing Sydney to Melbourne in a Cebu machine let alone medium haul...
You would have to wonder at what point the reduction in personal space/seat size etc has to stop before they seriously hurt someone..
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ce...c_A330-300.php
The Qantas 300's have about 296 seats.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qa...s_A330-300.php
I can't imagine doing Sydney to Melbourne in a Cebu machine let alone medium haul...
You would have to wonder at what point the reduction in personal space/seat size etc has to stop before they seriously hurt someone..
Cebu Pacific A330s are in a special high density configuration of 9 across instead of the normal 8 across. They have 436 seats, certification limit is 440, which is more than some A380 operators have. The aircraft are intended for Philippinos working in the Middle East who are smaller than the average westerner, don't mind being crammed in together and are price sensitive.
4 hours is the MAXIMUM time you could endure this for.
Philippine Airlines often have cheap fares from Australia to London and are a full service airline. Not up there with SQ or Qatar Airways, but worth a try if the price differential is noticeable.
4 hours is the MAXIMUM time you could endure this for.
Philippine Airlines often have cheap fares from Australia to London and are a full service airline. Not up there with SQ or Qatar Airways, but worth a try if the price differential is noticeable.
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Cebu Pacific A330s are in a special high density configuration of 9 across instead of the normal 8 across. They have 436 seats, certification limit is 440, which is more than some A380 operators have. The aircraft are intended for Philippinos working in the Middle East who are smaller than the average westerner, don't mind being crammed in together and are price sensitive.
4 hours is the MAXIMUM time you could endure this for.
Philippine Airlines often have cheap fares from Australia to London and are a full service airline. Not up there with SQ or Qatar Airways, but worth a try if the price differential is noticeable.
4 hours is the MAXIMUM time you could endure this for.
Philippine Airlines often have cheap fares from Australia to London and are a full service airline. Not up there with SQ or Qatar Airways, but worth a try if the price differential is noticeable.
Some have had 340Y in an A330-200 in 2-4-2 configuration & that was fine.
It's all about design & the actual seats. Toilets around exit doors, no massive bulkheads & no 1st, business or PE & you can get a lot of seats in.
sounds like a lot of airline snobs who don't pay retail for their own flights.
2+4+2 = 8, which is what the aircraft was designed for and is my favourite configuration when travelling with the wife as we get a couples chair to ourselves.
3+3+3 = 9, which is not what the aircraft was designed for and is a similar level of discomfort to a B777 in 10 across, and a B787 in 9 across.
Being an all economy configuration with the minimum legal number of cabin crew, the service won't be fantastic. In order to cram the seats in they need to be thin and expect them to be quite hard as there is little room for padding. Also expect long queues for the toilets.
It's like using a city bus designed for short rides around town on an 8 hour interstate run, yes it can be done but I wouldn't want to do it.
3+3+3 = 9, which is not what the aircraft was designed for and is a similar level of discomfort to a B777 in 10 across, and a B787 in 9 across.
Being an all economy configuration with the minimum legal number of cabin crew, the service won't be fantastic. In order to cram the seats in they need to be thin and expect them to be quite hard as there is little room for padding. Also expect long queues for the toilets.
It's like using a city bus designed for short rides around town on an 8 hour interstate run, yes it can be done but I wouldn't want to do it.
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Canada 3000 went bust in 2001 and Air Transat managed to have a A332 glide into the Azores with fuel starvation and an A310 lose a rudder in flight. Magnificent examples of longhaul LCC's that we should all aspire to fly with! Pure Gold.
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As an asian colleague used to say: Anyone can drive a late model Mercedes if they just eat beans.
I prefer to save up for my holidays and do it in a way that is positively memorable, which rules out the long haul LCCs.
You are going sit in a spam can for 20+ hours of your life, they could even be your last on this Earth, so if you have the means then at least try and enjoy every one of them.
I prefer to save up for my holidays and do it in a way that is positively memorable, which rules out the long haul LCCs.
You are going sit in a spam can for 20+ hours of your life, they could even be your last on this Earth, so if you have the means then at least try and enjoy every one of them.
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Canada 3000 went bust in 2001 and Air Transat managed to have a A332 glide into the Azores with fuel starvation and an A310 lose a rudder in flight. Magnificent examples of longhaul LCC's that we should all aspire to fly with! Pure Gold.
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If you want to start talking about problems with airlines, just read the book
THE MEN WHO KILLED QF
QF have had 19 fatal crashes with 35 deaths. So much for the world safest airline.
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As an asian colleague used to say: Anyone can drive a late model Mercedes if they just eat beans.
I prefer to save up for my holidays and do it in a way that is positively memorable, which rules out the long haul LCCs.
You are going sit in a spam can for 20+ hours of your life, they could even be your last on this Earth, so if you have the means then at least try and enjoy every one of them.
I prefer to save up for my holidays and do it in a way that is positively memorable, which rules out the long haul LCCs.
You are going sit in a spam can for 20+ hours of your life, they could even be your last on this Earth, so if you have the means then at least try and enjoy every one of them.
LCC's have created 1,000 of jobs, pilots etc. not all at the expense of old legacy carriers.
QF have had 19 fatal crashes with 35 deaths. So much for the world safest airline.
And not one of them was within the last 60 years - sixty bloody years and you think those incidents in piston driven aeroplanes are in some way relevant today?
And not one of them was within the last 60 years - sixty bloody years and you think those incidents in piston driven aeroplanes are in some way relevant today?
