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Old 18th Jul 2016, 22:48
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I see YBBN is having fog issues again!
Lots of go-arounds and diversions.
Oh! for a Cat111B capability of ILS, aircraft and crew.
Most Airbus aircraft are Cat111B capable and I have done a few of these in Europe very comfortably.
What a money saver it would be but the detractors would argue that for the low number amount of diversions etc. the cost could not be justified. I don't think the Airlines and Pax would agree with that but I guess the bean counters will always win.

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Old 18th Jul 2016, 22:58
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QF 747 ended up in OOL according to this site https://www.facebook.com/qfsecrets/
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 23:06
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Yes it did QFA16.
I watched it on Flt Radar24 and listened on Live ATC.
Gold Coast airport only had taxiway parking later in the morning, utter chaos!!
Quite nice being on the other side when this is happening but I do miss the challenge and satisfactory conclusion of a low viz approach. Makes one feel like we have well and truly earned our pay that day!
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Cant seem to edit the thread title to read " YBBN FOG "
How is that done?
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 23:45
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You can't!!

But I can!!

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Thanks. It is good to see it is all correct .
For my information why can't I edit the title when I can edit the post?
Seems a bit odd.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 00:35
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Has it made its way back to BNE yet??
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Was all happening this morning. Watched a tigerair scrape in Next 3 arrivals went around.

Qantas 330 went around after that tiger landed, as did Virgin. Virgin immediately diverted to CG but Qantas had a 2nd attempt and got in. Shrug.

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Old 19th Jul 2016, 01:28
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Surely the brand new runway will have CAT III capability. Or can't we afford that either.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 04:13
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How long will runway 19 be a nice shiny reflective skid pan in the wet?

And if you've read the notams on brisbane lately......

RWY 01/19 SFC CONDITION CHANGED (DUE MILLING) BTN TWY A4 AND TWY A5
FROM 07 150537 TO 08 150700 EST

What the hell does "due milling" mean relative to braking coefficients on a wet run? Hello, CASA?
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 05:50
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Geez Uber!
They would've had no trouble finding the runway! Just head for the noise!
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 07:34
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We found it easier to get into BN when foggy when following someone who went around. The missed approach power makes big holes in the fog.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 08:11
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Yeah, follow someone else and turn your landing lights off, or so I've heard.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 08:15
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I was told once that YBBN can have Cat 2 but needs electronic visibility and stop bars. Cat 3 not possible due to a too large Qantas hangar near the 19 GP site. New runway is new ball game.
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CAT 111, Na, not in the only third world country where you can drink the water.
Much more tax free money to be made building car parks.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 13:37
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Hmmm...the last time I remember a 747 at OOL was around 1982....and it was an empty 'SP'..."City of Gold Coast" ???

No Cookies | The Courier Mail

I remember it flying down the coast.....the 'SP' that is......not this one..
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 20:25
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What the hell does "due milling" mean relative to braking coefficients on a wet run? Hello, CASA?
Is that a trick question? The main purpose for milling is to remove contaminants and restore runway texture in order to avoid degraded friction - particularly when wet.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 21:41
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Tail wheel. Do you have an answer for my question below yet ?

"Thanks. It is good to see it is all correct .
For my information why can't I edit the title when I can edit my post?
Seems a bit odd."
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 22:13
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It was 25JAN81. VH-EAA "City of Gold Coast Tweed" made a series of promotional/training flights in Qld. It arrived OOL from TSV on 25JAN81 and departed the same day for BNE. I can't recall any 747 diversions to OOL prior to yesterdays flight but I suspect there may have been one or two.

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Old 19th Jul 2016, 22:46
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Cloud cutter, the issue is not so much the roughed up section, but the resurfaced bits. Currently those surfaces are ungroved and it appears more akin to a skid pan.
Perhaps someone ploughing through a closed high speed taxiway may alter things.
Oh wait..... That's right, this is a rumour network.
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