Aircraft crew deploys emergency slide by accident

[CurtainTwitcher]

CASA 2010 Jetstar Special fatigue audit, sober reading. Has anything changed?

(Jetstar Culture: Toughen Up Princesses!)

[Lookleft]

Disregard Madam Butterflies Undone framer as he/she has no idea. The Flight Ops safety department is entirely separate from Flight Ops Management and they conduct their own investigation. One of the ticks in the box with the current CP is that she has been involved with airline safety investigation from both the union end and the operational end at the mother ship. The rosters will be looked at with the current focus on FRMS, there is no way CASA are just going to disregard the possibility of fatigue. There is a reason why they have knocked back Jetstar's FRMS twice. As for the CASA special audit, most of the Jetstar management personnel, both flying and non-flying have all been replaced since that report was written and once again why do you think CASA have knocked back the Jetstar FRMS?

[Icarus2001]

It was not even a normal door.

What was abnormal about the door?

[Madame Bandit]

The Flight Ops safety department is entirely separate from Flight Ops Management and they conduct their own investigation.

Yes, but investigations are often conducted with most favourable outcomes.

“Confidence and naivety is something you feel and believe before you truly understand the situation”
― Julie E Czerneda

[Croissant2016]

Originally Posted by Icarus2001

What was abnormal about the door?

Sorry should of specified it was not a normal door in the sense that it was opened daily and/or touched by crew in any kind of opening capacity other than eps. Similar I suppose to an overwing exit door- it has a guarded handle and the FA would never see that door open or need to go anywhere near the door handle unless in an emergency. This was not a L1 door that is opened and closed several times daily

[Lookleft]

Yes, but investigations are often conducted with most favourable outcomes.

That is an opinion that has been stated about most investigation bodies e.g ATSB,NTSB,TAIC,AAIB,Dutch Safety Board, TSBC etc, etc etc. If the outcome is not what an individual would like to see i.e.total exoneration, then the investigation is accused of being biased and flawed. Sometimes the criticism is deserved but at Jetstar in the present time investigations are conducted independently of flight ops.

[Roller Merlin]

I understand said cabin crew was suffering from heavily fatiguing rostering.

[rog747]

weird to open any door at posn 2 (OR the doors at posn 3) on an A321 - they are NEVER used normally except in emergency -

one C/C member sits for t/off and landing on a rear facing jump seat at 2R
(in most configs opposite 2 pax seated row 10 11 or 12 depending on density)

Door 2L has no jump seat and has a row of pax seats either 2 or 3

I do not buy fatigue or error stories sorry does not add up - pax do not ever disembark from door 2L - how do you mistake such a major exit ruling

see here
http://www.yssyforum.net/board/showt...hp?t=36&page=9

[wheels_down]

United Airlines flight attendant loses job after activating emergency slide and bailing

[romeocharlie]

I have heard similar, was fatigue. 2 back of the clock followed by an early morning shift. Sounds familiar - computer says you can do it, then why can't you....