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Company confirming today the Embraer fleet will be completely phased out over the next 3 years.

Some ATRs to go as well.

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Old 5th Jul 2016, 06:30
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Getting back to the ejet.
I know and understand that these smaller jet have to be used somewhere but I do find it interesting that they are found operating on sectors that I know for fact, have no trouble filling a 738. Sectors such as CNS-SYD, TSV-SYD and ADL-PER just to name three. Look at the early flights SYD-MEL and you will see VA ejets mixed with 73s doing that, meanwhile QF drop a couple of A330s mixed with 73s on this same sector.

This says to me that the ejet was definitely a poor choice as there were not enough thinner routes that couldn't support the bigger 73s and so now they have to use the ejet on sectors that really should have 738s on them.

For me, I fly out of ADL and wether going to BNE, SYD, MEL or PER it's common to be on an ejet so I for one will welcome the phasing out of the ejet.
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Kranky,

Do you not like flying on the ejet? If so, I think you are the first person I have heard say that.

As far as passengers are concerned, they are a great aircraft. Window or aisle seat, more leg room than a 73 and 1G autopilot makes for a nice ride.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 01:47
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How do you not enjoy flying on an ejet Kranky? So much more comfortable than the 737. If you want the 737, go fly QANTAS.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 02:58
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Only negative for this passenger, is the mini lottery on whether your window seat actually has a window or wall.

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Old 6th Jul 2016, 03:14
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Didn't say I didn't like flying on the ejet, flown on them plenty of times in fact.
I did however, just the other day, fly on a QF 738 and the seats were shockers.

The point of the post was how the ejet are being used on sectors that have load factors which are good for the 73s but VA choose to put the ejet on.
Thus saying they may not have been not a good choice in the first place.
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Old 6th Jul 2016, 09:12
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Probably we're to small in the first place, if even NZ didn't need them and jumped form an 133 seat 733 to 171 seat A320.

Which are now running services in the AM/PM peak every 30minutes on AKL/CHC and CHC/AKL.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 06:30
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Back on the 18th of June, you asked me to justify the $350 million....

your answer just became public.

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2016101...79gn49wlg5.pdf

It was never the value in doubt, we knew what they needed, just I don't think anyone would have issued them another $350M in unsecured notes.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 06:47
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So given that this is an Embraer Fleet thread, how long have they got left? I did hear a story that due shortages there were some endorsements being conducted to fill up holes.
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 08:49
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No E Jet endorsements have been done this year talking to a Checkie in VAA
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 08:57
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Do you not like flying on the ejet? If so, I think you are the first person I have heard say that.
Let me be the second!
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 09:39
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Well so much for that story then. So the other question is when will they be gone?
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Old 10th Oct 2016, 10:35
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First quarter of 2018 from I can remember. Although they are already getting behind on the back log of B737 training who knows what will happen between now and then!
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 03:01
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I was told by the end of the year due to crewing issues.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 06:31
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You were told wrong
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 23:32
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Are any e-jet pilots taking LWOP or leaving altogether to fly in China?

$265,000 isn't bad to fly an e-jet, a bit less if you want to commute, if you do they pay for hotel whilst in country!

http://www.wasinc.aero/web/Jobs/JobDetailsPage.aspx?JobId=151
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Originally Posted by Boe787
Daily Round trip to Hong Kong can be achieved with one unit, depending on departure times, i think Qantas do it with their A330s when they operate to/from Hong Kong?
Beijing daily return would require 2 units, but with possibility for the unit that after its arrived in OZ, to do a tran con return sector, to be ready for next day departure to Beijing.
...until Beijing starts flow control! They typically have 8-10 hour delays in summer and 4-5 hour delays in winter
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