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Old 13th Dec 2018, 11:20
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Originally Posted by chickoroll View Post
Not sure where you get your info, actually the opposite. Recruitment will be ranked up again next year as they need to fill more left seats and with the 321NeO they will need the extra crew.
Also with the amount of boys and girls on the qantas hold file, they need to be replaced. Rumor mill says 80 pilots leaving the company next year.
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Old 14th Dec 2018, 06:40
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Originally Posted by chickoroll View Post
Not sure where you get your info, actually the opposite. Recruitment will be ranked up again next year as they need to fill more left seats and with the 321NeO they will need the extra crew.
I thought the NEOís were just replacement aircraft for older aircraft in the fleet?
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 02:49
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Horses mouth; second half 2019...!

Hope itís sooner
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 02:54
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With 53 flights cancelled the other day, with 10 already in Melbourne this morning due to crew, I can't imagine a company will allow that to continue.

There is no way a freeze on New pilots will work out for the company.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 23:17
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Just a bit of an update guys.

No a320 intakes are planned for this year - it's horrible news for the guys on hold.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 00:07
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I’m told the next 12-18 months training will be focused on command upgrades with some new A320 F/Os coming from the 787 S/Os being released. With F/O hours way down at the moment it’s not surprising that recruiting is on hold. But like all things at Jetstar the plan will most likely change.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 00:20
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With up to 80 FOs waiting for start dates at the mothership, it wonít be too long before crew planning are caught with their pants down (again).

Dont worry though, being forced to work on your days off (company log of claims) should solve all their woes.

Iíd say sit tight. Things change very quickly.

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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:00
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Originally Posted by MACH082 View Post
With up to 80 FOs waiting for start dates at the mothership, it wonít be too long before crew planning are caught with their pants down (again).

Dont worry though, being forced to work on your days off (company log of claims) should solve all their woes.

Iíd say sit tight. Things change very quickly.

How can you be forced to work on a day off? Letís just remove the WDO clause all together I would vote for that, I can imagine the cancelations now.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:21
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Have any of the cadets from the beginning way back, got commands yet?
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:23
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How can you be forced to work on a day off?
It was a tongue in cheek comment from MACH082. The company want to introduce that into the next EBA, it was in their log of claims.

I tend to agree, with the f/oís About to depart they will fall short very quickly. Captains have been at high hours for years so there isnít much fat left in the crewing numbers. Sit tight....
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:28
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Have any of the cadets from the beginning way back, got commands yet?
Theyre currently in training.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:48
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I don’t know where that 80 figure came from of F/Os departing for QF, I’ve heard of only around 10 guys in Sydney getting in recently and less in Melbourne.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 03:26
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I think there is about 25 across JQ from what Iíve heard. Two skippers going also. Definitely not 80.

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Old 19th Feb 2019, 05:17
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Does the JQ EBA company log of claims really include a proposal for a requirement to work on designated days off? I would like to see that.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 05:58
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They can put anything in the proposed EBA they like. Doesnít mean itíll get a yes vote.

Even if they pay silly money for flexibility, eventually the crew will call enoughs and enough and vote for lifestyle measures.

From what I understand and correct me if Iím wrong, the company want the ability to call you out on a standby day which runs into days off. They want the ability to force you to work and pay you the WDOs. Presently you can say no to a duty that runs past 2300 into a day off.

Of course, the cynic in me would suggest they will lose standby coverage as there would be plenty of URTI days being used.

Anyway sit tight. There will be plenty of training going on shortly.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 06:37
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Is it possible that it is all part of their IR posturing?
After all it is contract season and what better way to stop all those ambit claims by simply slowing recruitment and training and 'spinning' there is no shortage?
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Rated De View Post
Is it possible that it is all part of their IR posturing?
After all it is contract season and what better way to stop all those ambit claims by simply slowing recruitment and training and 'spinning' there is no shortage?
Its a reasonable question RDe, but the planes canít fly themselves just yet and the stick hours each month donít lie. Itís probably a good trick thatís worked successfully in the past, but unless aeroplanes stop flying I donít think itís a plausible one that many people are going to swallow. Secondly we all know what happens if aeroplanes donít fly..... management bonuses suffer.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 09:17
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Interestingly the block hours for March are quite low.....perhaps the basket weavers have it right for now.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 19:57
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March is generally low donít be fooled. I was rostered approx same hrs last March.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 20:56
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How many on hold file at the moment? Would progression be similar on the 787 and narrowbody fleet be similiar times to mothership, what's the typical time frame? If 320 FO bid to fly the 787, what position do they move into?
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