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Old 4th May 2016, 13:58
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Originally Posted by IsDon
Even the models had to sign non disclosure clauses.
Models? Hahaha if that's what you want to call them that's very nice of you. I think Zoolander would of been more apt in his description, "model, idiot."

Good waste of $300k plus in the reveal, wages of 50 plus "models", actual models and let alone the cost of the design process. Hopefully QF don't cry poor anytime soon asking for a government bailout.
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Old 5th May 2016, 00:53
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The main issue people have is with the wings, epaulettes and cap badge.
I love that this is the same forum that lampoons young wannabes for their over zealous use of gold epaulettes at the local aero club or their first GA interview. And we are now all getting our (now nicely tailored) trousers in a knot about what is basically window dressing.

Edit: sorry IsDon, not directed at you individually, you just had a good quote. I'm just getting annoyed about this molehill being made into a mountain on multiple forums!

Now personally I like the cap badge and epaulettes (the wings I'm not thrilled about), but really there is almost as much outrage about this here as there was about the lock out. Get a grip, if the job and uniform defines you that much you have bigger issues.
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Old 5th May 2016, 01:27
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Originally Posted by mcgrath50
Edit: sorry IsDon, not directed at you individually, you just had a good quote. I'm just getting annoyed about this molehill being made into a mountain on multiple forums!
No offence taken mate.

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Now personally I like the cap badge and epaulettes (the wings I'm not thrilled about), but really there is almost as much outrage about this here as there was about the lock out. Get a grip, if the job and uniform defines you that much you have bigger issues.
True.

But I do think a serious amount of backlash is warranted if we have any chance of influencing anything of the uniform before the process is unstoppable. It seems the outrage has been noticed, and I trust we will have some amendments to fix the major issues.

For me, in order, they would be:

Things that are horrible:
1. Wings,
2. Hat badge,
3. Epaulettes,
4. Hat.

Things I can live with but probably need some tweaking:
5. Shirt,
6. Jacket buttons,
7. Jacket rank

Things I don't mind at all:
8. Jacket,
9. Trousers

Based on the assumption that the actually materials, wearability and comfort are as per those that were worn by those doing the trial. By all accounts an improvement on our current uniform.

I don't think the issues that most people have are difficult to fix.
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Old 5th May 2016, 01:45
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Heard this the other day...
Capts. will be given the task of formally reporting crew for non compliance, ie not correctly wearing the new uniform?
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no different to how it is now caneworm.
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no different to how it is now
What I was alluding to was a FCR for non compliance.

The FAM, I believe refers more to the uniforms state of repair and not so much of non compliance, although I'm sure an overzealous Capt may interpret it that way, and may indeed be reworded thus.
Until now the issue of non compliance (uniforms) was probably low on managements radar.
This thread has no doubt changed that.

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Old 5th May 2016, 05:30
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We have enough trouble getting crew to FCR stuff now that they should be documenting. I can only think of a few who would bother to FCR a uniform non-compliance……especially if they aren't complying themselves!


…….and IsDon's list above (post 170) pretty much sums up most people's thoughts.
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Old 5th May 2016, 07:29
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Just like its the First Officers responsibility to submit a discretionary fuel order form when a certain amount above the threshold is exceeded. That's been in for a few years yet no one does it. On paper sounds good but no one will do it or wear the hat, pretty simple really. FAM or no FAM people use common sense, a thing lacking in QF management. In fact they should join my daughter watching ABC4KIDS that's far more relevant. Peter Rabbit at least is sane, not like some moron managers.
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Old 12th May 2016, 03:46
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Nice big pockets. Now I can upgrade my phone!
Hmmm, appears not. Can't do button up with iphone 6...
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Old 12th May 2016, 10:42
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Hmmm, appears not. Can't do button up with iphone 6..
What about a passport?
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Old 12th May 2016, 13:21
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I couldn't get the button done up when I tried my passport the other day.
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QF have approached The Department of Internal Affairs regarding a 'cut-down' version of the passport which is expected out in July.
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Old 12th May 2016, 19:58
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So where can the general public buy the surplus old shirts? would be good if you could, not many off the rack pilot shirts with holes for the wings.
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Old 12th May 2016, 22:11
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There won't be surplus anything I reckon. They've issued them out to every other group entity. I ordered a new hat and tie months ago and it's been on 'back order'. Nil stock. So a Network pilot is wearing a shiny new hat whilst a mainline pilot has a cruddy old one.

(I like a shiny new uniform. The F/As think I'm new and have lower expectations of me! )
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Old 14th May 2016, 10:27
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Are you sure it's the uniform Keg?
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Old 14th May 2016, 11:29
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Devil

Lol. Smart Alec.
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Old 15th May 2016, 13:49
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So a Network pilot is wearing a shiny new hat whilst a mainline pilot has a cruddy old one.
I'm sure the Network crew would quite happily hand you their hats if you feel that way about it. Apparently they weren't well received at all - especially that the crew are expected to ponse around a mine-site all day in full regalia.
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Old 15th May 2016, 14:10
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I couldn't let it go Keg But I do like your thought process, I might try it.
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Old 15th May 2016, 22:37
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I'm sure the Network crew would quite happily hand you their hats if you feel that way about it.
Given the number of posts on Instagram showing off the Qantas uniform when they got it I'm not sure that they would.
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Old 16th May 2016, 00:01
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Originally Posted by caneworm
Heard this the other day...
Capts. will be given the task of formally reporting crew for non compliance, ie not correctly wearing the new uniform?
They always have. Most just mention it, but then again, if you run into the company man............and there always is a company man, lurking somewhere........expect a spray. It makes him feel good.
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