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Old 29th Mar 2016, 01:58
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TigerAir debacle

Tigerair Australia new Bali service awaiting Indonesia approval

Ferrying empty 737 aircraft on international routes sounds like a great way to chew through cash fast. Lucky the management just got given a loan.......
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Is the Indonesian Government still upset with the Australian Government?

Clearly a Political delay.

In retaliation we should restrict any increase in flights from the likes of Air Asia Indonesia and Garuda if they want to play that game....
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The day any Australian Government willingly steps onto a level playing field, will be the day Mother Theresa has triplets.
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They were just making progress gaining the trust of the travelling public again.

Various Australian agencies may be interested in this. CASA should be and Fair Trading may be asking why they sold tickets for a service that was not "approved".

Cue the lawyers entering stage left, selling tickets for something you do not have a licence to operate? Mmmmmmm

PS Didn't Air Asia fail to have approval for their ill fated Surabaya to Singapore service? QZ8501

Is the Indonesian Government still upset with the Australian Government?
http://www.traveller.com.au/bali-ind...d-again-gluh6y
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Just another speed hump along the way. Good thing we pay good money for competent management . Couldn't organise a r@@t in a brothel with a fist full of hundreds......
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30 Day free Indo visa's in effect since last week, see here-
2016 - Complete list of countries with Indonesia free visa entry
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Which would indicate that it is probably not about tit for tat diplomacy with the Indonesian government.
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I'm not sure I can immediately side with the posters defending Tiger and blame "politics" by the Indo's.

This airline does not have a very clean record of safety oversight.

But, I'm interested, how does this "dampish" lease actually work? Isn't it VA aircraft operated by VA pilots, presumably maintained via VA? It appears perhaps that the regulatory approval is needed via Tiger's AOC even though it is effectively operated by an airline that already has route approval? Perhaps Tiger have not been forthcoming with sufficient paperwork. You need staff for that.

And I love the quote that a discount airline should not offer a dodgy service! HTF are they going to stay so discounted then? I bought a $10 Rolex in Thailand once. It fell apart after a few months. So I spent the next six months complaining about it on the interwebs. Next trip to Thailand I bought another one. It only lasted a week. I'm getting really frustrated because Rolex are not returning my calls.
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I'm not sure I can immediately side with the posters defending Tiger and blame "politics" by the Indo's.
Who was defending Tiger above?
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Sorry, I guess there was only one

Clearly a Political delay.
My bad.
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Post 7 was mine and it has the opposite meaning to what you suggest.
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Yes, sorry Icarus, I posted in a hurry and amended it immediately. You obviously beat me to it. Carry on, all.
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Airline management 101 would probably encourage organisations to ensure they have the necessary approvals in place BEFORE they start selling tickets!!!
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Without the "facts" you're shooting from the hip!
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So everyone who's commented knows all the facts behind the story?

And post the grounding, what proof do you have that their safety oversight is not adequate?

Also, what does safety oversight have to do with the Indonesian Government not granting approval because they want to be difficult?

Finally, when are you planning on moving on and realising that things have changed and the people there now are focusing on keeping the airline safe and professional?

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From within the Airline industry I was told today they had the rights to fly passengers in locked down but had failed to complete the necessary compliances to fly passengers out.

Interesting to see their website was still offering DPS MEL non stop flights over the next few days, marketed as non stop.

Amateur in the extreme and a good reason from my point of view not to sell them. I don't need the client angst or the extra work for no return that it creates.

Best all

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Old 29th Mar 2016, 10:19
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Without the "facts" you're shooting from the hip!
Tigerair Australia’s new Bali service hit by lack of regulatory approval from Indonesia
They either had the approval or they didn't!
As it has been shown, they didn't have the approval so therefore they shouldn't have been selling tickets.
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Whether or not they or the others are to blame is an argument that will be mulled over for a while on this erstwhile forum.

But to have nongs say that without regulatory approval, Tigerair shouldn't have been selling tickets only supports the notion that idiots frequently post on this site; I distinctly recall that every new destination on Jetstar's international network was sold with the caveat 'subject to regulatory approval'.

So are Tigerair's.

It's lawful. It may not seem right, but it's lawful.

So if that seems so irritating, go and shirtfront your local member and convince them to change the law as it currently stands.
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So if that seems so irritating, go and shirtfront your local member and convince them to change the law as it currently stands.
No, I'll leave that to the hundreds of passengers who will never spend their money with Tiger again.
This is a real win for Jetstar!!!
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, they can still advertise and sell tickets DPS MEL, they just can't fly the sector. That's why VA are still ferrying empty frames up, and bringing punters out. Hence the massive waste of money alluded to above.
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