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Jetconnect vs Jetstar First Officer

Old 3rd Apr 2016, 08:01
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Not sure about jetconnect, but do you mean Jetstar Australia on the EBA. Most FOs anywhere between 140 and 180k depending on what overtime/Overnight allowances/Day Off payments they are getting.

Not bad money for first officers. Especially when China Air Boeing 777 local captains are on around $80,000 USD.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 10:45
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JUdd

Compare apples with apples next time.

Cost of living at the different countries will affect salaries paid. Don't muddy the waters with silly comments like yours!
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 20:45
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Originally Posted by sahni View Post
Lifestyle and bases; who can shed some light into this topic? JC has pilots in AKL and WLG, and are they able to commute to work with their standard roster?
JC rosters makes commuting more or less impossible.
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 06:45
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"There is a lot riding on this upcoming contract negotiation for Jetconnect. Have heard that plenty in both Captain and FO ranks will be leaving in droves if pay and lifestyle conditions aren't dramatically addressed."

Word is that guys are not going to stick around to find out! Should be an interesting few months ahead. Conditions are at an all time low at JC and many are already seriously looking or leaving. Think hard about accepting a position with this lot. Latest FO recruitment -around 10 interviewed with only 1 or 2 accepted. Upgrades similar with guys begin turned down for no good reason. Very little lifestyle. Days off only if your not called out to work the evening prior. Jetstar likely to be the better option!
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Old 12th Apr 2016, 07:51
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Latest FO recruitment -around 10 interviewed with only 1 or 2 accepted.
Do you mean they only took on one or two out of those interviewed or only 1 or 2 accepted job offers ?

I heard there were a few last year offered jobs but turned them down...
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Old 15th Jun 2016, 07:34
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Anyone know what is up at JC? Their recruitment portal no longer mentions paying anything for the type rating and that it will be organised for you.

Any changes in the contract?
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Old 15th Jun 2016, 09:49
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Originally Posted by empacher48 View Post
Anyone know what is up at JC? Their recruitment portal no longer mentions paying anything for the type rating and that it will be organised for you.
Looks like it is a knee jerk response by management in an attempt to stay on top of a looming monumental shortage of FO's.
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Old 16th Jun 2016, 10:33
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I've seen a few complaints about the JC rosters/conditions. My original thought was that with their schedule of only 8 738's only doing TT flights that it would be a simple case of the rosters rotating through the possible morning NZ-OZ-NZ flights and then the afternoon/evening NZ-OZ-NZ with a couple of overnights in WLG, CHC, SYD ending in the dreaded AKL-MEL-AKL redeye. However I guess its not that simple in that if you operate into CHC, WLG at midnight, you aren't flying out again first thing next morning (well I hope you aren't). Then throw in problems of a small potential pool of standby.

I suspect to get nicer rosters they need to get a bit more critical mass and somehow merge the 8 JC and similar sized JQ TT/NZ fleets together (and pick a common type 738 or 320 in doing so) so you have at least 3 aircraft overnighting in both WLG and CHC so that a crew based can be sustained in WLG,CHC as well as a larger crew base in AKL.
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 09:04
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Id suspect more redeyes will be on the cards!! Anyone have any info on the proposed changes expected on the JC T&Cs for pilots?
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Old 25th Jun 2016, 20:56
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Do many guys commute across the Tasman that work at Qantas NZ ?
Also I heard that Qantas NZ might be put on the Qantas Australia seniority list as part of the negotiations like Virgin New Zealand did during there last negotiations.
Which would be awesome for any Qantas New Zealand guys wanting to get back to Aussie.

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Old 26th Jun 2016, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Pilat View Post
Commuting across the ditch? Not a chance. Between reserves, duty changes and 8 days off which you often work into, commuting from Auckland is hard enough.
Do you commute from Auckland by car or by plane, and how likely is the 10 days off which was mentioned earlier?
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Old 5th Aug 2016, 14:06
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It seems that JC now fully funds the type rating i.e. no payment upfront required by the new hire. That's a positive change I'd say. Any other changes for the better, perhaps extra days off etc? Would be great to see the conditions in par with J* NZ.
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Old 26th May 2017, 19:54
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CEAs

Would anyone have a copy of both CEAs and be willing to pm them to me? Thanks in advance
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Old 27th May 2017, 21:58
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One of them requires a CASA license with an encyclopedic knowledge of bureaucratic minutiae and the torturous line training program devised by the Australian grinding machine and the other, lets you fly on the simple and elegant New Zealand regulatory system once you've completed the ground school and sim in Melbourne
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Old 28th May 2017, 01:01
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One of them requires a CASA license with an encyclopedic knowledge of bureaucratic minutiae and the torturous line training program devised by the Australian grinding machine and the other, lets you fly on the simple and elegant New Zealand regulatory system once you've completed the ground school and sim in Melbourne
Love it! As someone who's worked on both sides on the 'dutch' it is easy to see how dysfunctional, overly complicated and backwards most of the Australian aviation sector is (CASA, ASA, airspace design, C&T culture, GA etc etc etc).

I just don't get it...maybe because the country is flat, has great weather and the size of Europe, we thought we had to complicate things to have something to do...
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Old 31st May 2017, 00:06
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So no to the CEAs?
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Old 31st May 2017, 02:47
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I can send you a copy of the Jetstar NZ CEA when I get home a bit later on, should have it to you tonight.
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Old 31st May 2017, 09:44
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Can't help with CEA's, but just read today that Emirates is ditching the SYD-AKL sector in favour of more frequency with QF A330's.

Unless some aircraft are in for a rego change, that'll see mainline taking more Tasman flying (back) off Jetconnect.

If this proves just the beginning of Emirates withdrawing from the Tasman.... interesting times ahead.

Emirates axes Auckland-Sydney superjumbo flight

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Old 31st May 2017, 12:17
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EK have been reducing flying sectors globally for a while now. If you believe prune it is because of crewing issues. I don't know if that is correct or not.
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Old 31st May 2017, 12:31
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Originally Posted by framer View Post
EK have been reducing flying sectors globally for a while now. If you believe prune it is because of crewing issues. I don't know if that is correct or not.
And we know that they are hurting financially.
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