Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

Qantas Link Trainee First Officer Level 1&2

Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

Qantas Link Trainee First Officer Level 1&2

Old 15th Aug 2018, 09:35
  #501 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Australia
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
All still seems to be a bit dead on this thread!
Hearing varied reports from people that made it to the Sim. Some got a thanks but no thanks email the same day and others got reference check emails and then got cut a month later. Anyone understand the methodology behind this? Assuming the referees didn't give a bad reference of course...🤔 Does a reference check mean you were borderline?
Ellie_Vator is offline  
Old 20th Aug 2018, 10:25
  #502 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 45
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Any idea how long the wait is on the hold file?
Flydawg is offline  
Old 21st Aug 2018, 00:52
  #503 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Cloud surfing
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ellie_Vator
All still seems to be a bit dead on this thread!
Hearing varied reports from people that made it to the Sim. Some got a thanks but no thanks email the same day and others got reference check emails and then got cut a month later. Anyone understand the methodology behind this? Assuming the referees didn't give a bad reference of course...🤔 Does a reference check mean you were borderline?
Every applicant who passed sim goes through a reference check
Caedus is offline  
Old 21st Aug 2018, 20:53
  #504 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: back to the land of small pay and big bills
Age: 50
Posts: 1,218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What’s the point of a reference check? By the time you’ve been around the traps long enough if you’ve got any gumption you must’ve had a run in or two with your superiors..in this environment of pilot shortages and training delays even if you’re squeaky clean I wouldn’t trust your average self serving management pilot to not give you a bad reference. So most guys and girls will just get a buddy from back in the day to do it.
mattyj is offline  
Old 21st Aug 2018, 21:43
  #505 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: The Outback
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know of 6 people who went through the whole process (including reference checks) and then received a 'no' around 4-6 weeks later. I don't understand Qlink's logic in that process? If they're going to knock someone back, why not do it prior to ref checks rather than getting their hopes up.
donkey767 is offline  
Old 26th Aug 2018, 20:49
  #506 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: The Small Island West of Europe
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi all,
Just wondering if QLink are accepting applications from holders of international ATPL licences (think EASA), who are Australian citizens? If so, do they help the applicant to transfer to a CASA issued ATPL, after successful application process?
I'm probably just dreaming really!
mplpilot is offline  
Old 26th Aug 2018, 23:16
  #507 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Lower North Shore
Posts: 275
Received 22 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by mplpilot
Hi all,
Just wondering if QLink are accepting applications from holders of international ATPL licences (think EASA), who are Australian citizens? If so, do they help the applicant to transfer to a CASA issued ATPL, after successful application process?
I'm probably just dreaming really!
They May assist with the skills test required to convert the licence in the simulator as part of the endorsement. However everything prior to that (exams, paperwork, cost) would be up to you.
Brakerider is online now  
Old 27th Aug 2018, 00:35
  #508 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Australia
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok glad I'm not the only one that got a reference check and then binned. So passing the interview gets you the sim...and passing the Sim gets you a reference check, is that what you're saying? I find it hard to believe so many peoples references would have failed them at the last hurdle...
Ellie_Vator is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2018, 02:17
  #509 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vietnam
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Donkey,

By the time Qlink finally offered me an interview my IPC had lapsed for about 18 months. I had been flying regularly during this time. I made HR fully aware of this but they told me to come for an interview anyway.

So after booking flights and making a hotel reservation for 3 days I was told after my first interview that due to my lack of recent instrument flying I would not progress to the sim stage. I showed the email from HR to the Capt who was interviewing me and he said I shouldn't have come to interview with a lapsed IPC. I told the Capt I could have the IPC done in a few days which he replied "you can't do an IPC renewal in a few days".

The hiring dept at Qlink have some strange ideas.
pilotchute is offline  
Old 27th Aug 2018, 02:55
  #510 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: elsewhere
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pilotchute
Donkey,

By the time Qlink finally offered me an interview my IPC had lapsed for about 18 months. I had been flying regularly during this time. I made HR fully aware of this but they told me to come for an interview anyway.

So after booking flights and making a hotel reservation for 3 days I was told after my first interview that due to my lack of recent instrument flying I would not progress to the sim stage. I showed the email from HR to the Capt who was interviewing me and he said I shouldn't have come to interview with a lapsed IPC. I told the Capt I could have the IPC done in a few days which he replied "you can't do an IPC renewal in a few days".

The hiring dept at Qlink have some strange ideas.
Everyone seems to have a qantas group HR story to tell.

There are people that pass all stages of testing, then give good references and get a no, others turn up with 3 atpl subjects complete and are told “finish ur atpls and you’ll be on the next ground school”

One applicant came from NZ for an interview only to be told on the day “a NZ cpl isn’t acceptable”...


Flyboy1987 is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2018, 10:11
  #511 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Darwin
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ellie_Vator
Ok glad I'm not the only one that got a reference check and then binned. So passing the interview gets you the sim...and passing the Sim gets you a reference check, is that what you're saying? I find it hard to believe so many peoples references would have failed them at the last hurdle...
This sort of process is the same one used in the construction industry to justify 457 visa issue. You simply have to advertise, receive resumes and then write on the back that their references didn’t stack up. Keep them on file for 7 years in case you are audited.

By knocking them all out at sim and reference check stage, they can justify bring in South Africans by the truck load.

Choo Choo!!!!
longrass is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 02:47
  #512 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pilotchute
Donkey,

By the time Qlink finally offered me an interview my IPC had lapsed for about 18 months. I had been flying regularly during this time. I made HR fully aware of this but they told me to come for an interview anyway.

So after booking flights and making a hotel reservation for 3 days I was told after my first interview that due to my lack of recent instrument flying I would not progress to the sim stage. I showed the email from HR to the Capt who was interviewing me and he said I shouldn't have come to interview with a lapsed IPC. I told the Capt I could have the IPC done in a few days which he replied "you can't do an IPC renewal in a few days".

The hiring dept at Qlink have some strange ideas.
I am sorry you were treated like that. If our CP actually got out from behind his desk, stopped playing ‘dress up like a captain’ for publicity purposes and made an effort to see what is happening with the way in which HR is treating local pilots with contempt then I am sure they wouldn’t have to send over teams of people to South Africa to try and recruit foreigners.

SHAME!
jetlikespeeds is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 04:21
  #513 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vietnam
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks for the vote of sympathy. Its their loss. I am going to the US to fly for a Regional like the 150+ other Aussies who are there already.

All of whom tried and failed to get interviews with REX, Cobham etc or were even left hanging on the Qlink hold file for 12 months.

These people are all flying ERJ's and CRJ's now but according to Australian based airlines weren't qualified to even sit in a Dash.
pilotchute is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 10:07
  #514 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 45
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Hold file

Anyone know how many weeks/months the people are waiting for start dates at the moment.
Flydawg is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 10:43
  #515 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 45
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
thanks just replied
Flydawg is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 11:50
  #516 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: FNQ ... It's Permanent!
Posts: 4,281
Received 162 Likes on 83 Posts
These people are all flying ERJ's and CRJ's now but according to Australian based airlines weren't qualified to even sit in a Dash
That doesn’t mean much. I’ve seen lots of people knocked back by one or two airlines, yet went on to have successful careers with another.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
Capt Fathom is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 13:45
  #517 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vietnam
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I dont think Australia has that many airlines.
pilotchute is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 20:05
  #518 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: australia
Posts: 31
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Do you mind me asking are you guys direct entry or cadets that are getting through to reference checks and then getting turned away.
roundhouse is offline  
Old 31st Aug 2018, 20:12
  #519 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: australia
Posts: 31
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
This whole reference check thing is weird... Are you guys totally sure that the references said good stuff? It just seems bizzare to say no at a reference check stage doesn’t it.
roundhouse is offline  
Old 1st Sep 2018, 05:55
  #520 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vietnam
Posts: 1,244
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
So Qantas has lobbied the Government to special work visa exemptions to hire foreign pilots and local applicants could possibly be deemed "not competitive" because they had two goes at Flight Planning?

Are they hiring dash pilots or astronauts?

​​​​​
pilotchute is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.