VIRGIN fleet review

[B772]

First B737-MAX deferred until November 2019.

[Derfred]

Someone asked for business class commuting travel?

[porch monkey]

No, they didn't, Derfred. But let's not let that get in the way of the story, huh.

[Falling Leaf]

Heard on the jungle drums that 15 ATR crew resigned last week.

[Strewth]

"Cathay and Qantas have got it by the throat" AA John Borghetti, Feb. 17, 2017

"However, the airline has not confirmed the aircraft would come from its existing fleet of six A330-200s, which are predominantly used on trans-continental services from Perth to Australia’s east coast capitals."

Virgin Australia launches flights to Hong Kong SMH Feb 17, 2017

[porch monkey]

If the current ones aren't doing East coat West coast, and there definitely aren't going to be any more purchases in the short term, what aircraft do you think they'll use?

[chuboy]

Tiger 737s?

[porch monkey]

Yeah, that'd only be 2 stops I guess.

[Strewth]

HNA VA Fleet Puzzle A330/350 B787 ABT David Flynn, June 30, 2016

[chuboy]

Perhaps the joke wasn't that funny porch monkey!

[coaldemon]

The Jungle drums are miles off as usual. More like 1 last week

[Bug Smasher Smasher]

Originally Posted by Strewth

HNA VA Fleet Puzzle A330/350 B787 ABT David Flynn, June 30, 2016

Chinese pilots flying B registered jets in Virgin colors. 😈

[BPA]

Lots of VA pilots undergong A330 endorsement training in Singapore at the moment with 2-3 courses running per month until around May.

[porch monkey]

Nah, I got it Chuboy, but it's a sensitive subject internally at the moment.....

[AerialPerspective]

Originally Posted by DutyofCare

The E-jets will be parked in a U.S Desert for an amount shorty.

About 10 x Ejet frames still have leases on them ( till 2022 ) thx to Pork Roll stuffing up a potential buyer when he used to sit in the SYD Throne Room.

No cash for the new B738 Max: are the 1st 10 going to Air Fuji

JB is Pig Headed on VAA A332 ops EBA saying recently:

DON'T ANYONE IN THIS ROOM MENTION BUSINESS CLASS COMMUTING TRAVEL TODAY THE ANSWER IS NO > I WILL JUST MOVE ON & ANSWER THE NEXT QUESTION

With that type of attitude, what possible chance have all the hard working crews got to help see a better direction for the A332 ops

So many issues to resolve for V now, we wonder how some managers sleep each night

What's CASAs position on Vs continual open rostering / unapproved leave scheme & the effects on crews just out of interest

That sort of pig headed attitude makes me sick... when I fly with an airline I want the people up the pointy end to be well rested if they've pax'd in prior to the flight... this "No one will ride in Business Class because I've had the backlash at another organisation of customers complaining" BUT, I and one or two of my Execs will travel up there... well, if you actually knew anything Mr Mail Room Boy, you would know that the reason it was restricted in the 70s and up to the mid-80s at QF was because it was management who misbehaved and ruined it for all... we only need to look at a few years ago when a certain senior orange-star staffer was reported for getting 'cosy' with his g/friend in First on QF to see that it's those with entitlement complex that take it for granted. Years ago, management in NZ complained to their then CEO that staff shouldn't be able to travel in J and P. He said "OK", and banned it for everyone, including the manager's that complained. Shot themselves in the foot it seems. It just irks me that this bloke who has wrecked the airline almost thinks it's more important for him to fly in a comfy seat than a crew member who may have to be alert enough to save an aircraft full of pax.

[DutyofCare]

SPOT ON

HEY AerialPerspective = you are on the MONEY SPORT

Where can we VOTE 4 YOU

AerialPerspective: Where is the ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN V PLS

[AerialPerspective]

Originally Posted by sealear

Aerial,

Yes but you see, he doesn't care. In my experience at VA there was a lot of saying "yes we care" but in reality nobody gave a **** about anything.

Spot on. Like much management these days, it's all about image and calling areas or departments someone's 'space' and 'going forward' and talking about a restructure and 'what that looks like' and being 'keen' to do something or 'taking' a decision rather than making one - in other words, deliberately crafted weasel words that can be wriggled out from under later on when the inevitable complaint comes that what was alluded to wasn't done because there was no intention. Someone once said to me there, you will find out very quickly that the public image and the internal reality are diametrically opposed.

[AerialPerspective]

Originally Posted by DutyofCare

HEY AerialPerspective = you are on the MONEY SPORT

Where can we VOTE 4 YOU

AerialPerspective: Where is the ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN V PLS

Thanks DoC... there is no accountability. I was almost chloroformed by meetings where an endless drone of weasel words were spilled out but that never lead to anything happening. The thing is the truth will out eventually and slowly it's happening... the TT debacle over DPS, the lack of profit for 5-6 years. You are too kind but I come from a family tradition of airlines and of logic and straight talk... I have zero time for weasel words and for people who flit around like weasel word sprouting parrots and actually know absolutely nothing about management or the business they're in... if I was in charge of that company you would see a completely different approach. Honesty, reality and logic would trump everything else and anyone who dared to say 'going forward', 'reaching out', 'how's things in your space', etc, would be donated to the long line at Centrelink. I'm not for entitlement mentality but just logic and that stupid rule does not pass the logic test... there is simply no logical justification for someone like that to present an argument about crew traveling down the back (which might be believable if properly thought through and argued) then to turn around and say 'but I can'. It not only doesn't pass the logic test, it doesn't pass the stink test. Just imagine an impartial judge at a royal commission after a serious incident, quizzing as to why the tecch crew were not allowed the best and most comfortable seat available while the CEO flew up the front. I dare say the person responsible would be pilloried. Imagine the reaction of relatives if something awful happened if they found out that it might not have if the crew were more rested and when they found out that the CEO was flying in that cabin... just look at the reaction over the other CEO leaving DXB and that is in a company where T/Crew do get to travel up the front - that incident was minor compared to the other situation across the road. It just completely frustrates and glad to not be a part of it anymore.

[AerialPerspective]

Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

So when are they going to rebrand the company Ansett?


They've pretty much acquired the same fleet!

They're just waiting to get hold of some second hand BAe-146s and some second hand 767s to replace the A330s then they'll do it LOL

[AerialPerspective]

Originally Posted by Engineer_aus

There are 2 146F's sitting in a hangar just around from my hangar at Bankstown. Apparently they are being prepped soon for painting into virgin freight colours.

Hahaha,,. is one of them ex Titan Airways... Geez they got rid of that years ago...