ADSB live today in Perth?
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Last days for a Queen of the Skies
With the HUGE money wasting ADSB introduction being rolled out ( without any fanfare from the flying community here in Aust ) there upon the PH Airspace users > comes the imminent demise of a true LEGEND OF THE AUSTRALIAN SKIES " THE FOKKER F27 / 50 " type from Australian Airspace
Well done CASA
REMEMBER ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN > > > THERE'S A STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN > > > BUT A HWY TO HELL
Well done CASA
REMEMBER ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN > > > THERE'S A STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN > > > BUT A HWY TO HELL
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DoC - I don't see the retirement of the Virgin Fokker F27/50's as anything other than the retirement of what are essentially, "old technology, uncompetitive", aircraft.
I guess you wailed about the final retirement of DC-3's/C-47's, from RPT, too?
The Virgin Fokkers are ex-Ansett - ex-Skywest - and first flew between 1987 and 1992.
No-one installs SatNav in their 1980's model cars - why would you bother with keeping F27/50's going on RPT, when their depreciated value is probably only the value of the engines?
Virgin Australia to sell Fokker 50 fleet | AviationWA
I guess you wailed about the final retirement of DC-3's/C-47's, from RPT, too?
The Virgin Fokkers are ex-Ansett - ex-Skywest - and first flew between 1987 and 1992.
No-one installs SatNav in their 1980's model cars - why would you bother with keeping F27/50's going on RPT, when their depreciated value is probably only the value of the engines?
Virgin Australia to sell Fokker 50 fleet | AviationWA
Nunc est bibendum
No-one installs SatNav in their 1980's model cars
Fleets are replaced because they need to be replaced, not because the new type will be fitted with a piece of equipment that could have been retrofitted to the old fleet.
Nunc est bibendum
probably exceeds the value of the '69 Holden Premier??
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Fleets are replaced because they need to be replaced, not because the new type will be fitted with a piece of equipment that could have been retrofitted to the old fleet
In addition to high operating hours, they would also have high operating cycle numbers, due to their higher level of short-haul work, as compared to larger aircraft.
You can drive around quite happily in your '69 Holden Premier, because it's your personal piece of vintage transport that impresses the punters and gawkers on the footpath - but try and convince RPT pax that you're going to provide them with a high-level of comfort, entertainment, features, and low noise levels, with a 29 yr old, high-hour, 40-yr-old-design, turbo-prop aircraft - and you'll be met with levels of scorn, from even the least discerning pax.
A Fokker senior executive writing on the Fokker website in a news item dated 2013, makes the statement - "I look forward to another 10 years of successful Fokker 50 operations."
In other words, Fokker are indicating that they consider the F50 will be totally obsolete by 2023.
Why would anyone spend big bucks on adding additional, very expensive avionics, to an aircraft that even the manufacturer admits will be obsolete, and possibly no longer even supported by them, within 7 yrs?
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