Airily - Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra

[Beer Baron]

which punter sets the alarm the night before their flight, plans the car trip to be stepping onto the pavement 20 minutes before their flight leaves? Pure bull****.

But they WILL do this for a flight on Airly?? With no fallback if they miss it.
Is that what you are suggesting? Otherwise I'm not sure the point you are making.

[YPJT]

Wooski,
The gym membership analogy is exactly what I thought of when I first read this. Think back to the 80s when thousands signed up for an offer too good to be true. In the end the balance left over wasn't enough to pay for the soap in the showers.

[Ovation]

I wish them lots of luck in their venture - they''l need it. Their biggest issue will be ground transportation if the passenger is reliant upon rental cars or taxis. If you're being picked up, read no further.

I regularly land at YMEN - it is more convenient to get to Southbank, if you don't mind the average 20 minute wait for a cab, which will cost around $55.00. Because of the Freeway there are always empty taxis between the city and YMML. My regular Sydney destination is Waverton which will leave no change out of $100.00. Again, there can be a long wait for a cab of around 30-40 minutes (normal), or if you get really lucky, it might be only 5-10 minutes (rare). Bankstown is poorly serviced by taxis.

Ever tried to rent a car at YMEN or YSBK?

Absolute PITA unless you can convince them to deliver the car to the airport, otherwise you'll need to wait for a taxi to the rental depot. Dropping the car off at YMEN was OK when there was a key-drop box just inside the main door, but I'm not sure whether it's still there.



I've found YSBK is worse for rental cars unless you arranged in advance with the Mobil refuellers, but availability was always an issue.

Unless somethings changed, the nearest other car rental was a $20.00 taxi ride into Budget in Bankstown CBD.

[wishiwasupthere]

There's a Thrifty about a 10 minute walk from the BK terminal building. Still not ideal though.

[iPahlot]

If they have ground staff at both ends one would think anything like car rentals and taxis would be organised in advance given they are touting a full service model.

It'll a difficult setup to get off the ground, but if they get traction and the regulator doesn't start raining on their parade they may well have a viable business provided it is managed properly. (Unfortunately being a pilot does not automatically make you a good candidate to run an aviation business)

The world of business is full of stories of people doing things that others said wouldn't work and making a success of it.

I wish them the best of luck in their venture

[BNEA320]

it would be so easy to get Thrifty or any other rental car company to position a few cars at Bankstown. Thrifty in box seat. They are in airport grounds.

Actually hired a Camry from Thrifty Bankstown , last year & for a day it was $40 less than from Mascot. (massive airport charges at Mascot)

[donpizmeov]

Camry is less than 20t.

[Track5milefinal]

Must be doing something right as they're looking for 'Fulltime' Learjet drivers.

[LeadSled]

There will always be a nagging doubt in one's mind as the safety of one's BMW or Audi parked overnight at Bankstown.....

Folks,
More like a racing certainty, based on personal experience, and my thoroughly vandalized car was behind the security fence and out of sight of public areas.
And it was only an elderly Commodore --- the kids around Bankstinistan do it just for fun.
Tootle

[Biggles266]

How sure are we of them using Kingair 350's?
They currently have an ad on AFAP recruiting Lear 45 drivers....

[gerry111]

I've never had a problem with leaving my 27 year old Corolla overnight at YSBK. I simply park it near the terminal in view of the CCTV cameras.

[porch monkey]

Gerry, I suspect it isn't the security cameras that are saving your car....

[Stationair8]

Had you down more as a refined Mercedes AMG type man LeadSled, rather than a Commodore driver!

[V1 rotated]

Does anyone know who's AOC they will be operating under? I'm unaware of any RPT Lear 45 operators currently or are they getting their own AOC?

[chimbu warrior]

Does anyone know who's AOC they will be operating under?

CASA are not terribly fond of arrangements to operate under someone else's AOC............

I'm unaware of any RPT Lear 45 operators currently or are they getting their own AOC?

Jet City and Lifeflight are but 2 current operators of Lear 45's, albeit non-RPT. They of course have their own AOC's, but may not be willing to share....

[onehitwonder]

perhaps they have their own AOC

[neville_nobody]

The original concept was not to have an AOC and to use someone elses. Their business model was 'capital lite' so they said.

[BNEA320]

don't need a lot of capital if using someone elses aircraft & AOC to run a virtual airline.

[PLovett]

You still have to pay for the lease of the aircraft and a fee to use someone else's AOC. It also helps if whoever is putting up the AOC already has RPT on it & Bankstown & Essendon as recognised ports otherwise the cost just keeps increasing. "Capital Lite" - garbage!

[BNEA320]

not if some aircraft are sitting around doing SFA. Plenty of aircraft parked around the country many days of the week.

Maybe they pay on hours used only ? It's certainly a buyer market.