ASIC checks coming to an airport near you
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Time for a 'Red' Pinky......
Keep Smilin'....
p.s. Mr C....http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lo-and-behold.html
Cheers
Keep Smilin'....
p.s. Mr C....http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lo-and-behold.html
Cheers
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As it's 'Story time'..
IsDon, The guy you were accosted by at TVL perhaps would have been one of the dog handlers? (AKA 'Doggies'.) They were invariably good guys who adored their working dogs. They secured the tarmac areas at night.
The RAAF Police, on the other hand, were a class of their own during my 12 years in the RAAF. Their mission appeared (to me) to be look out for parking infringements. And to have cars banned off base. I have unpleasant memories of them.
IsDon, The guy you were accosted by at TVL perhaps would have been one of the dog handlers? (AKA 'Doggies'.) They were invariably good guys who adored their working dogs. They secured the tarmac areas at night.
The RAAF Police, on the other hand, were a class of their own during my 12 years in the RAAF. Their mission appeared (to me) to be look out for parking infringements. And to have cars banned off base. I have unpleasant memories of them.
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Ther's been a few rants about ASIC and what a waste of time and money it is, including the thread by Sunfish in 2008. It seems nothing's changed.
CASA - You Can Stick Your Online ASIC Application Up Your ***
I just renewed my ASIC and supplied a recent passport sized photo, but my mistake was to use the same image I'd supplied for the 2013 renewal. Needless to say, it was noticed and the application held over, with the request to supply a more recent one.
The stupidity is, the primary proof of identity was my driver's licence which was issued in 2009, and a passport using the image that was rejected.
Some of the other things that really annoys me are having to repeat information I've given them since I first got one in 2003, because they don't have the intelligence to split ASIC into an "Initial" issue and a "Renewal" issue, and then there's that really dumb question - "why do you want an ASIC"?
If I didn't want one, I wouldn't be wasting time and money applying for one. I really don't want one but the rules say I need one to access security controlled airports. This whole ASIC thing is a bad joke.
CASA - You Can Stick Your Online ASIC Application Up Your ***
I just renewed my ASIC and supplied a recent passport sized photo, but my mistake was to use the same image I'd supplied for the 2013 renewal. Needless to say, it was noticed and the application held over, with the request to supply a more recent one.
The stupidity is, the primary proof of identity was my driver's licence which was issued in 2009, and a passport using the image that was rejected.
Some of the other things that really annoys me are having to repeat information I've given them since I first got one in 2003, because they don't have the intelligence to split ASIC into an "Initial" issue and a "Renewal" issue, and then there's that really dumb question - "why do you want an ASIC"?
If I didn't want one, I wouldn't be wasting time and money applying for one. I really don't want one but the rules say I need one to access security controlled airports. This whole ASIC thing is a bad joke.
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RE "The stupidity is, the primary proof of identity was my driver's licence which was issued in 2009, and a passport using the image that was rejected."
Thanks Mr 'O',
But, I have found that in 'The Real World', MY Australian Passport - (VALID FOR 10 YEARS - Latest One 2015 to 2025) - will actually get ME into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including Russia, but my 'Australian ASIC' will not even get me a cup of coffee and a 'burger' at 'staff rates' anywhere..!!!
So, why should I not simply be able to produce my 'Australian Passport' at these particular airports requiring a "Secure ID"..??????
It has the same details in it / on it....n'est ce pas'...???? And...WHAT IS "MORE SECURE"..????
CASA / AFP...Feel free to comment.....
NO Cheers.....NOPE.....NONE at ALL!!!
Thanks Mr 'O',
But, I have found that in 'The Real World', MY Australian Passport - (VALID FOR 10 YEARS - Latest One 2015 to 2025) - will actually get ME into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including Russia, but my 'Australian ASIC' will not even get me a cup of coffee and a 'burger' at 'staff rates' anywhere..!!!
So, why should I not simply be able to produce my 'Australian Passport' at these particular airports requiring a "Secure ID"..??????
It has the same details in it / on it....n'est ce pas'...???? And...WHAT IS "MORE SECURE"..????
CASA / AFP...Feel free to comment.....
NO Cheers.....NOPE.....NONE at ALL!!!
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but my 'Australian ASIC' will not even get me a cup of coffee and a 'burger' at 'staff rates'
That's a shame, most capital city primary airports I frequent (as a pax. these days) the staff discount with the ASIC is around 40-50%. Doesn't quite cover the renewal fee, but does make a dent.
Tootle pip!!
My GOD "ex FSO GRIFFO!"
IT is incredible that YOUR passport, valid no less than for TEN whole years gets you into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including RUSSIA!!!!!!
I am NOT sure what else to say, except that maybe I should end this sentence with lots of question marks???????
IS anyone LISTENING????
Time for a RED methinks.
WHOOPS, forgot the emoticons!
IT is incredible that YOUR passport, valid no less than for TEN whole years gets you into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including RUSSIA!!!!!!
I am NOT sure what else to say, except that maybe I should end this sentence with lots of question marks???????
IS anyone LISTENING????
Time for a RED methinks.
WHOOPS, forgot the emoticons!
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one for my returning your expired ASIC card,
I have yet to see the stupidity that is CAsA actually publish a return address.
where do you return it to?
Once again, Australian pilots are showing how hard they are to please.
On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.
No wonder the Authorities are confused.
On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.
No wonder the Authorities are confused.
Man Bilong Balus long PNG
IS anyone LISTENING????
I am NOT sure what else to say,
OK so let me spell it out.
We have a bunch of white, entitled, OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.
My heart bleeds.
You are exactly the type of middle aged misogynist blokes who huff and puff, rolling their eyes about being briefed in an emergency exit row or being asked to turn your phone to flight mode by young female flight attendants.
The next thing you know you'll all be complaining about going through security and being explosive tested or not being given priority for an emergency exit row...
Anyway, love the stories form 30 years ago, totally relevant to today's operations. It must feel especially good recounting the heroic aspects of talking down to and catching out crew members for their lack of knowledge.
As Peuce said
Yes indeed.
I think we shall leave these gentlemen to continue their discussion, I'm going to pretend to be cultured by signing off and saying I'm about to partake in a red! (In reality I'm going to snap the top off another cold beer)
Bottoms up
We have a bunch of white, entitled, OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.
My heart bleeds.
You are exactly the type of middle aged misogynist blokes who huff and puff, rolling their eyes about being briefed in an emergency exit row or being asked to turn your phone to flight mode by young female flight attendants.
The next thing you know you'll all be complaining about going through security and being explosive tested or not being given priority for an emergency exit row...
Anyway, love the stories form 30 years ago, totally relevant to today's operations. It must feel especially good recounting the heroic aspects of talking down to and catching out crew members for their lack of knowledge.
As Peuce said
Once again, Australian pilots are showing how hard they are to please.
On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.
No wonder the Authorities are confused.
On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.
No wonder the Authorities are confused.
I think we shall leave these gentlemen to continue their discussion, I'm going to pretend to be cultured by signing off and saying I'm about to partake in a red! (In reality I'm going to snap the top off another cold beer)
Bottoms up
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Gee Mr 'C'......You're not coming back...are you...??
And, just for the record, my real objection is to the process of the bloody stoopid idiotic 'red card', the fact that it costs $180 to say nothing, and is valid for such a short period of time....and going thru the whole marigmarole again, rather than a 'simple renewal'......
Like, if I wasn't a terrorist last year, like, nor for the last 50 or so whilst aviating, like, then why oh why would I be one now.......Like...
And lastly...Re;
OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.
Your description is 110% CORRECT!!!! Except for the 'dick swinging'....can't do that no more....Boo Hoo....
No Cheers....Nope....NONE AT ALL!!!!
And, just for the record, my real objection is to the process of the bloody stoopid idiotic 'red card', the fact that it costs $180 to say nothing, and is valid for such a short period of time....and going thru the whole marigmarole again, rather than a 'simple renewal'......
Like, if I wasn't a terrorist last year, like, nor for the last 50 or so whilst aviating, like, then why oh why would I be one now.......Like...
And lastly...Re;
OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.
Your description is 110% CORRECT!!!! Except for the 'dick swinging'....can't do that no more....Boo Hoo....
No Cheers....Nope....NONE AT ALL!!!!
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And, just for the record, my real objection is to the process of the bloody stoopid idiotic 'red card', the fact that it costs $180 to say nothing
If you are getting yours for $180 you are doing well. I don't know of anyone doing them for under $200
Cost of the background check just over $90 plus postage, time to process etc. Contrary to what the emotive rants here try to have you believe, no one is making a fortune out of processing these bloody things.
Capital outlay for the equipment to print the cards alone is in the vicinity of $50k. You have to churn out a lot of plastic to recoup that.
