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Old 17th Dec 2015, 11:05
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Time for a 'Red' Pinky......

Keep Smilin'....

p.s. Mr C....http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lo-and-behold.html

Cheers

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Old 17th Dec 2015, 11:15
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ASIC two years. Passport ten years. Why? Similar paperwork for each.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 12:24
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As it's 'Story time'..


IsDon, The guy you were accosted by at TVL perhaps would have been one of the dog handlers? (AKA 'Doggies'.) They were invariably good guys who adored their working dogs. They secured the tarmac areas at night.


The RAAF Police, on the other hand, were a class of their own during my 12 years in the RAAF. Their mission appeared (to me) to be look out for parking infringements. And to have cars banned off base. I have unpleasant memories of them.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 12:28
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Ther's been a few rants about ASIC and what a waste of time and money it is, including the thread by Sunfish in 2008. It seems nothing's changed.

CASA - You Can Stick Your Online ASIC Application Up Your ***


I just renewed my ASIC and supplied a recent passport sized photo, but my mistake was to use the same image I'd supplied for the 2013 renewal. Needless to say, it was noticed and the application held over, with the request to supply a more recent one.

The stupidity is, the primary proof of identity was my driver's licence which was issued in 2009, and a passport using the image that was rejected.

Some of the other things that really annoys me are having to repeat information I've given them since I first got one in 2003, because they don't have the intelligence to split ASIC into an "Initial" issue and a "Renewal" issue, and then there's that really dumb question - "why do you want an ASIC"?

If I didn't want one, I wouldn't be wasting time and money applying for one. I really don't want one but the rules say I need one to access security controlled airports. This whole ASIC thing is a bad joke.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 16:14
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RE "The stupidity is, the primary proof of identity was my driver's licence which was issued in 2009, and a passport using the image that was rejected."

Thanks Mr 'O',

But, I have found that in 'The Real World', MY Australian Passport - (VALID FOR 10 YEARS - Latest One 2015 to 2025) - will actually get ME into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including Russia, but my 'Australian ASIC' will not even get me a cup of coffee and a 'burger' at 'staff rates' anywhere..!!!

So, why should I not simply be able to produce my 'Australian Passport' at these particular airports requiring a "Secure ID"..??????

It has the same details in it / on it....n'est ce pas'...???? And...WHAT IS "MORE SECURE"..????

CASA / AFP...Feel free to comment.....

NO Cheers.....NOPE.....NONE at ALL!!!

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Old 18th Dec 2015, 02:07
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A shooters licence.
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 07:51
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but my 'Australian ASIC' will not even get me a cup of coffee and a 'burger' at 'staff rates'
Griffo,
That's a shame, most capital city primary airports I frequent (as a pax. these days) the staff discount with the ASIC is around 40-50%. Doesn't quite cover the renewal fee, but does make a dent.
Tootle pip!!
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 10:36
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My GOD "ex FSO GRIFFO!"

IT is incredible that YOUR passport, valid no less than for TEN whole years gets you into LOTS and LOTS of countries, including RUSSIA!!!!!!

I am NOT sure what else to say, except that maybe I should end this sentence with lots of question marks???????

IS anyone LISTENING????

Time for a RED methinks.

WHOOPS, forgot the emoticons!

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Old 18th Dec 2015, 15:39
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one for my returning your expired ASIC card,
the ASIC is a secure document so you don't just cut it up.
I have yet to see the stupidity that is CAsA actually publish a return address.
where do you return it to?
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 17:40
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Oh! Thanks once again to that paragon of semi-literate wit.
(Hope mummy didn't catch you near the computer again.)
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 23:24
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Dubbleyew eight,
The ASIC is required to be returned to the body that issued it. An address is usually printed on the back of the card.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 00:14
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Once again, Australian pilots are showing how hard they are to please.

On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.

No wonder the Authorities are confused.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 01:40
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IS anyone LISTENING????
To you? No.

I am NOT sure what else to say,
Try saying nothing.
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 08:14
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Pickle me Grandmother ! 40%
Leadsled, where can I get that. The best I seem to get is 10% or "No discount, but we do have a loyalty card".
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OK so let me spell it out.

We have a bunch of white, entitled, OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.

My heart bleeds.

You are exactly the type of middle aged misogynist blokes who huff and puff, rolling their eyes about being briefed in an emergency exit row or being asked to turn your phone to flight mode by young female flight attendants.

The next thing you know you'll all be complaining about going through security and being explosive tested or not being given priority for an emergency exit row...

Anyway, love the stories form 30 years ago, totally relevant to today's operations. It must feel especially good recounting the heroic aspects of talking down to and catching out crew members for their lack of knowledge.

As Peuce said

Once again, Australian pilots are showing how hard they are to please.

On one thread they are complaining about ASIC checks airside and on another thread they are complaining about the lack of security checks for people going airside.

No wonder the Authorities are confused.
Yes indeed.

I think we shall leave these gentlemen to continue their discussion, I'm going to pretend to be cultured by signing off and saying I'm about to partake in a red! (In reality I'm going to snap the top off another cold beer)

Bottoms up
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 10:33
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Bottoms up
We live in hope....!
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 10:57
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We live in hope....!
Oh STOP it, you're making me blush!
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 11:01
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Gee Mr 'C'......You're not coming back...are you...??

And, just for the record, my real objection is to the process of the bloody stoopid idiotic 'red card', the fact that it costs $180 to say nothing, and is valid for such a short period of time....and going thru the whole marigmarole again, rather than a 'simple renewal'......

Like, if I wasn't a terrorist last year, like, nor for the last 50 or so whilst aviating, like, then why oh why would I be one now.......Like...

And lastly...Re;
OLD baby boomers who have existed through arguably the greatest period of human advancement in history, both financially and technically, swinging their d!cks around in an esoteric circle jerk on an anonymous internet forum, crying into their 'reds' at having to have a red card bouncing around on their fat guts whenever they enter an airport security zone.

Your description is 110% CORRECT!!!! Except for the 'dick swinging'....can't do that no more....Boo Hoo....

No Cheers....Nope....NONE AT ALL!!!!
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Old 19th Dec 2015, 12:25
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And, just for the record, my real objection is to the process of the bloody stoopid idiotic 'red card', the fact that it costs $180 to say nothing
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If you are getting yours for $180 you are doing well. I don't know of anyone doing them for under $200
Cost of the background check just over $90 plus postage, time to process etc. Contrary to what the emotive rants here try to have you believe, no one is making a fortune out of processing these bloody things.
Capital outlay for the equipment to print the cards alone is in the vicinity of $50k. You have to churn out a lot of plastic to recoup that.
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To our itinerant onanist...
I'm afraid that, yet again, you've spilt your seed on stony ground.
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