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Old 28th Mar 2017, 10:16
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What a deal ! Will be able to buy 5 houses in the USA for the price of 1 in Sydney , where do I sign ?
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Old 28th Mar 2017, 12:39
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Originally Posted by Rabbitwear
What a deal ! Will be able to buy 5 houses in the USA for the price of 1 in Sydney

looking at the skywest website you might need a second job
$36.50 x 76 hours a month = $2774 gross x 12 months = $33 288

33 288 - 932.50 - 3595 = $28760 per annum NET after federal taxes (15%)

about $550 a week.

Use me up ....

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Old 28th Mar 2017, 13:22
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Originally Posted by Rabbitwear
What a deal ! Will be able to buy 5 houses in the USA for the price of 1 in Sydney , where do I sign ?
Everyone I know see this as just a stepping stone. Even the airline knows it and makes no big deal if you leave soon after joining. Where else in the world would you get a jet type rating for free with no bond and no minimum term of service?

From interview to being checked to line on the ERJ175 took me just under 6 months. No waiting on a hold file either ... get the jet experience quickly to open more doors and move on. The airline's check and training is well regarded in the industry too and many from SkyWest have gone on to the majors at a rate of 40 to 50 a month.
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Old 29th Mar 2017, 07:46
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Are there any airlines taking Aussies with over 3000 hours command on jets over 40,000Kg and over 500 hours command on A320?
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Old 29th Mar 2017, 17:25
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Originally Posted by novicef
Are there any airlines taking Aussies with over 3000 hours command on jets over 40,000Kg and over 500 hours command on A320?

No Airbus operators will sponser a visa.
If you can organise your own visa, then sure!
Starting pay at Frontier is $39/hr with a 75 hour/month guarantee. Have at it!
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 00:28
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Are there many part 121 or 135 operators doing the E3 visa for Aussies? Or just a few?
Thanks
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 08:47
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Originally Posted by Far Canel
Are there many part 121 or 135 operators doing the E3 visa for Aussies? Or just a few?
Far Canel,

It's hard to tell for sure as any carriers (apparently regionals) availing themselves of the E-3 supply don't advertise it as they would other employment parameters. You'd think they would if they're as hard up as alleged.

My observation is anecdotal. I've even popped in on your AFAP website looking for some sign of activity on this Down There but have seen nothing.

But if one were interested, shotgunning apps to all of them couldn't hurt.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:16
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Originally Posted by going_up
First time posting here. I would like to put a lot of things to rest. I was the fortunate one to have been the first E3 visa pilot hired by any airline in the US. That just so happened to be SkyWest Airlines. I have been with the company for more than 19 months now and have nothing but positive things to say about my quality of life here. I am sure that some users here will snicker and possibly have some negative comments regarding salaries, quality of life, and just flying in the US in general. Skywest currently has more than 30 Australian pilots on staff, and they have the E3 process down pat! Other regionals wouldn't have a bar of me going back to when I was applying, but Skywest actually took the time and listened.

For those of you those want more details, please PM me. I would be more than happy to link you a special application link, guide you, answer questions, and point you in the right direction.

A few main points about Skywest.
- They are an amazing employer, but far the best regional. If you speak with any American aviator, you will find they share the same opinion.
- Your spouse & children are more than welcome! Your Spouse is also allowed to work in the US.
- The flight benefits are amazing! I have the ability to fly for free on United, Delta and American! This does vary depending on the aircraft you operate and domicile.
- The pay is more than enough! My first year, I made over 48K USD. Of which I was in training from January till April. That being said, if I flew a full year without training? 60K USD (75K AUD) as a second year FO! Keep in mind this includes my bonuses and I do work hard!
- Cost of living in the US is MUCH CHEAPER than that of back home! The dollar goes much further here!
- Current upgrade time to captain are 2 years or less if you are willing to take Detroit as a base.
- American locals are awesome people! Great to fly with! I have learnt so much being here!
- All your training is paid for by Skywest, they also provide accommodation and pay you while you train!

Any questions, I can point you in the right direction for sure!

Hope this helps!
Fishing for referral bonuses.

Anyone looking at doing the E3 thing in the US should goto Piedmont, simply for the fact it's an AA wholly owned airline and all the benefits that come with that as opposed to a contract airline. This is especially important with regards to travel benefits when trying to fly home to Aus or fly your folks across etc.

I work for Envoy so I have no bias recommending Piedmont to anyone. They've also got their E3 process down pat.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 19:26
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Originally Posted by havick
Fishing for referral bonuses.

Anyone looking at doing the E3 thing in the US should goto Piedmont, simply for the fact it's an AA wholly owned airline and all the benefits that come with that as opposed to a contract airline. This is especially important with regards to travel benefits when trying to fly home to Aus or fly your folks across etc.

I work for Envoy so I have no bias recommending Piedmont to anyone. They've also got their E3 process down pat.
And just how many E3 visa pilots are online with Piedmont? None!

Referral bonus? I do get a bonus if I refer individuals. That being said, I am the guy that started this whole E3 visa pilot hiring. How do I know? I filled out apps two years ago for everyone. They all called within about three days. Once I told them I was on an E3, most didn't want to continue the conversation. Others attempted to research the E3 and kept claiming they needed to sponsor me. Skywest researched it and actually called me for clarification. Now, here we are! Now other regionals have caught on to it. Skywest is working on a specific area on our website for Aussie pilot recruitment.

Short of giving you the guys name from QLD that had his offer rescinded from Piedmont last month, I don't know what else I could do to prove. Envoy was a great choice as I love Texas! But I already got the job with Skywest, it was a no brainer. Buddy of mine (Texan) started with Envoy and is loving the place so far! I was surprised to see Piedmont rescind the other Australian's offer as they are really hurting for pilots.

I'm not in it for the money, I still consider myself lucky to have got this E3 pilot thing rolling. That being said, just PM for info, questions on anything. I do not care if you do not want me to refer you. I'm here because my passion lies with aviation and helping others enjoy this awesome avenue in life that I was so fortunate to have found.

Take it as you will. I hope to hear from those interested.

Fly safe and stay happy!
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 21:09
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Originally Posted by havick
Fishing for referral bonuses.

Anyone looking at doing the E3 thing in the US should goto Piedmont, simply for the fact it's an AA wholly owned airline and all the benefits that come with that as opposed to a contract airline. This is especially important with regards to travel benefits when trying to fly home to Aus or fly your folks across etc.

I work for Envoy so I have no bias recommending Piedmont to anyone. They've also got their E3 process down pat.
Mmmm... depends on which "contract" airline. Also, the best wholly owned depends on what month it is. When it comes to best benefits (I assume you're talking about travel) all the AAs have the same as mainline - first to check in, first on the list with that priority. Everyone will sit there with their hand on the mouse at 24hr and 1 min waiting. Pisses mainline peeps right off.

Good luck to all that go to the USA and fly though. Good fun and plenty to learn. A very different world outside of oz.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 22:15
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Originally Posted by stillcallozhome
Mmmm... depends on which "contract" airline. Also, the best wholly owned depends on what month it is. When it comes to best benefits (I assume you're talking about travel) all the AAs have the same as mainline - first to check in, first on the list with that priority. Everyone will sit there with their hand on the mouse at 24hr and 1 min waiting. Pisses mainline peeps right off.

Good luck to all that go to the USA and fly though. Good fun and plenty to learn. A very different world outside of oz.

That's my point AA wholly owned airlines have the same travel benefits as mainline as opposed to contract airlines i.e. Skywest, republic etc. which are at the back of the priority list.

For an E3 Visa person working in the USA for a few years this can make a huge difference being able to visit family etc
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 23:51
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Just my two cents from someone also working in the US, from what I have heard, there are a lot more rejections for Visas at consulates than was happening 6-12 months ago.

Im sure a lot of it comes down to who you get on the day, but it does sound like the visa rejection rates may be getting a little higher than previously advertised. That said I have no doubt people are still getting approvals, I just wouldn't be going in assuming you will absolutely get the Visa approved and start packing my bags. Perhaps the screws are tightening a little on experience levels they expect? or maybe just more people having bad luck with who is assessing their applications, I honestly wouldn't know. Purely speculation.

One of the lads I used to fly with who has a squeaky clean record and a good 4-5 years of experience and plenty of time etc... than needed got knocked back without reason at the consulate and that was after resigning from his current job! I know directly of two others as well under similar circumstances in the recent past. Common link was no degree and a few years short of what they supposedly "require" in lieu of a degree.

Be smart and good luck!
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 07:10
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Originally Posted by hobo335
Just my two cents from someone also working in the US, from what I have heard, there are a lot more rejections for Visas at consulates than was happening 6-12 months ago.

Im sure a lot of it comes down to who you get on the day, but it does sound like the visa rejection rates may be getting a little higher than previously advertised. That said I have no doubt people are still getting approvals, I just wouldn't be going in assuming you will absolutely get the Visa approved and start packing my bags. Perhaps the screws are tightening a little on experience levels they expect? or maybe just more people having bad luck with who is assessing their applications, I honestly wouldn't know. Purely speculation.

One of the lads I used to fly with who has a squeaky clean record and a good 4-5 years of experience and plenty of time etc... than needed got knocked back without reason at the consulate and that was after resigning from his current job! I know directly of two others as well under similar circumstances in the recent past. Common link was no degree and a few years short of what they supposedly "require" in lieu of a degree.

Be smart and good luck!
I'm about to start applying and have an aviation degree, so hopefully I can get it done. Did you hear any other reasons for rejection?
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 01:29
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Had a chat to a recruiter at SkyWest about this, and was told that a degree or 3 years aviation experience for every year of missing study was required.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 14:41
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Interested.

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And just how many E3 visa pilots are online with Piedmont? None!

Referral bonus? I do get a bonus if I refer individuals. That being said, I am the guy that started this whole E3 visa pilot hiring. How do I know? I filled out apps two years ago for everyone. They all called within about three days. Once I told them I was on an E3, most didn't want to continue the conversation. Others attempted to research the E3 and kept claiming they needed to sponsor me. Skywest researched it and actually called me for clarification. Now, here we are! Now other regionals have caught on to it. Skywest is working on a specific area on our website for Aussie pilot recruitment.

Short of giving you the guys name from QLD that had his offer rescinded from Piedmont last month, I don't know what else I could do to prove. Envoy was a great choice as I love Texas! But I already got the job with Skywest, it was a no brainer. Buddy of mine (Texan) started with Envoy and is loving the place so far! I was surprised to see Piedmont rescind the other Australian's offer as they are really hurting for pilots.

I'm not in it for the money, I still consider myself lucky to have got this E3 pilot thing rolling. That being said, just PM for info, questions on anything. I do not care if you do not want me to refer you. I'm here because my passion lies with aviation and helping others enjoy this awesome avenue in life that I was so fortunate to have found.

Take it as you will. I hope to hear from those interested.

Fly safe and stay happy!
G'day Going_up,

I have been doing some research on this and meet most of the mins they are all asking for. I'd love to hear your take on Skywest as a few mates have recently been hired there, but the longer term implications are what I am after...

Cheers.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 15:27
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Originally Posted by VHCookie monster
G'day Going_up,

I have been doing some research on this and meet most of the mins they are all asking for. I'd love to hear your take on Skywest as a few mates have recently been hired there, but the longer term implications are what I am after...

Cheers.
Piedmont is the best option for E3's with the mainline AA travel benefits as well as the higher pay and quicker upgrades. I think they have a slight training bubble with their current expansion but is being ironed out with the addition of new sims.

Be wary of guys offering to refer you as they are usually getting a referral bonus. I work for envoy, we don't take E3 applicants hence why I can recommend Piedmont as the best E3 visa option un-biased.

I'm not saying that Skywest is a bad company but overall once you get through training at Piedmont you will end up earning more, upgrading quicker and have much better travel benefits that come attached to working for an AA wholly owned regional.

Basically to answer your question regarding long term implications of an E3 visa, unless you marry an American you will always be in immigration limbo having to renew your E3 visa every two years. No legacy/majors will hire you in the US without a green card or citizenship. An E3 visa is NOT a pathway to a green card unless you happen to meet someone you end up marrying while over here on your E3.

The E3 is actually a great deal for the regionals because they know you can't move on to a major. That being said you will be in a position very quickly to be picked up by Middle East carriers or Chinese contracts after doing 2-3 years at a regional in the US
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Originally Posted by havick
Piedmont is the best option for E3's with the mainline AA travel benefits as well as the higher pay and quicker upgrades. I think they have a slight training bubble with their current expansion but is being ironed out with the addition of new sims.

Be wary of guys offering to refer you as they are usually getting a referral bonus. I work for envoy, we don't take E3 applicants hence why I can recommend Piedmont as the best E3 visa option un-biased.

I'm not saying that Skywest is a bad company but overall once you get through training at Piedmont you will end up earning more, upgrading quicker and have much better travel benefits that come attached to working for an AA wholly owned regional.

Basically to answer your question regarding long term implications of an E3 visa, unless you marry an American you will always be in immigration limbo having to renew your E3 visa every two years. No legacy/majors will hire you in the US without a green card or citizenship. An E3 visa is NOT a pathway to a green card unless you happen to meet someone you end up marrying while over here on your E3.

The E3 is actually a great deal for the regionals because they know you can't move on to a major. That being said you will be in a position very quickly to be picked up by Middle East carriers or Chinese contracts after doing 2-3 years at a regional in the US
Very interesting. Any chance you can PM me your email and we can chat further. If you don't mind...
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Originally Posted by VHCookie monster
Very interesting. Any chance you can PM me your email and we can chat further. If you don't mind...
Check your PM's
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I am so sorry. I wrote to PPrune regarding me not being able to receive PMs.

I have created an email [email protected]

I am able to answer any questions regarding coming across to Skywest on the E3 visa.

I can assure you that a 3 year degree, or a degree of any nature is not the be all and end all. You are required to have a 4 year degree or its equivalent (12 years work experience in the specified field of work). How does this work? For every year of tertiary study, it equates to 3 years work experience.

For example, you took 2 years of full time study to become a commercial pilot with all the bells and whistles. You would need another 6 years work experience equivalent. To the US consulates credit, they do honestly look at things on a case by case basis. We only had one guy knocked back, the simple reason as they he did not wait to receive his paperwork for Skywest and did not have the required documentation to have the visa approved.

I am sorry for the late reply. As I said, I ned to with this and just decided to look up and see what the "web" is saying about our recent recruitment of more than 30 plus Australians.
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Originally Posted by going_up
I am so sorry. I wrote to PPrune regarding me not being able to receive PMs.

I have created an email [email protected]

I am able to answer any questions regarding coming across to Skywest on the E3 visa.

I can assure you that a 3 year degree, or a degree of any nature is not the be all and end all. You are required to have a 4 year degree or its equivalent (12 years work experience in the specified field of work). How does this work? For every year of tertiary study, it equates to 3 years work experience.

For example, you took 2 years of full time study to become a commercial pilot with all the bells and whistles. You would need another 6 years work experience equivalent. To the US consulates credit, they do honestly look at things on a case by case basis. We only had one guy knocked back, the simple reason as they he did not wait to receive his paperwork for Skywest and did not have the required documentation to have the visa approved.

I am sorry for the late reply. As I said, I ned to with this and just decided to look up and see what the "web" is saying about our recent recruitment of more than 30 plus Australians.
Anyone that is interested in the E3 in the USA should first ask anyone here on pprune recommending a company whether they're receiving a referall bonus (usually 5k) for getting an applicant on board. Then make your own deduction after that.

As it stands right now the best company in the US for an E3 visa applicant is Piedmont. I fly for Envoy (on a green card), therefor I can make the recommendation of Piedmont totally un-biased as I don't work for them and as such don't receive a 5k bonus cheque for getting bums on seats.
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