Australian pilots can work for US regionals.
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Kind of....UAL are simply putting guys that had been given class dates or job offers prior to COVID, a new class date. So it’s not new hiring. They’re being brought on board so we are fully staffed for summer 2022. The big question, is how well the rest of the world deals with the ongoing pandemic and how freely people can travel internationally. That will dictate the need to start interviews again and fresh hiring.
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Frontier have not and probably never will consider E3 visas. Why would they? The lagacies and LCCs never struggled for applicants, just the regionals and some of the worst ACMIs.
I heard from a reliable source that Frontier were considering E3s prior to Covid and are planning to revisit that option once things get back to normal. Wouldn’t bet a dollar on it, but that’s the rumour.
Whether ULCCs go for E3s or not is largely irrelevant for anyone still in Australia. You're pretty unlikely to make that happen without meeting anyone face to face. One ULCC did sign off one, and only one, who was in the right place at the right time. Regionals are still the key to getting into the industry over here.
If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
Whether ULCCs go for E3s or not is largely irrelevant for anyone still in Australia. You're pretty unlikely to make that happen without meeting anyone face to face. One ULCC did sign off one, and only one, who was in the right place at the right time. Regionals are still the key to getting into the industry over here.
If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
If you're hell bent on shooting for a non regional, which I don't understand why you would be, Breeze would be the best target IMO
I don’t know which source you’re referring to and I’m not familiar with those rumours. Won’t elaborate any further on where I heard it except to say it’s someone who should know.
I’m certainly not predicting what will happen, rumours mean nothing, we’ll all just have to wait and see.
The rumour of E3s being considered at Frontier is 100% true. I am in regular contact with a senior member of the recruiting department there. Pre-COVID they had plans to trial 6 Australian E3 pilots who were already there and had gained hours flying for regional operators.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
The rumour of E3s being considered at Frontier is 100% true. I am in regular contact with a senior member of the recruiting department there. Pre-COVID they had plans to trial 6 Australian E3 pilots who were already there and had gained hours flying for regional operators.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
Is that last paragraph because of some legal requirements?
Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise when they could get type rated with significant experience on type rather than 500 hours RJ
Doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise when they could get type rated with significant experience on type rather than 500 hours RJ
They told me they wanted that 500 jet/turbine time to be operating for a US part 121 operation. And would only look at Australians who had already been in the US on an E3.
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Overseas ICAO type ratings don't mean anything to FAA as they are valid for SIC privileges, not for PIC.
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The rumour of E3s being considered at Frontier is 100% true. I am in regular contact with a senior member of the recruiting department there. Pre-COVID they had plans to trial 6 Australian E3 pilots who were already there and had gained hours flying for regional operators.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
If those pilots were successful, Frontier would have looked at ramping up that program. Regardless it wouldn't be an option for someone who hadn't already spent some time flying at one of the regional operators. They would only consider those who had over 500hrs of regional jet flying in the US first and met the other min requirements for total time etc.
It's still something they may revisit if there is a need down the road as things recover. But there would be no direct path from Oz to that job without a stint at a regional.
Ok, so they had plans to trial it before COVID. Did they actually take any E3's?
Not really seeing why they would need that now or the foreseeable future with their new pay package and so many unemployed US pilots.
Also, from what I’ve seen of hiring at US airlines over the last 20 years, a great deal of importance is placed on “trainability” and having a few Type Ratings in your logbook goes a long way to proving that. They also like to see some sort of new aircraft or command training within the last few years. It’s the reason a lot of experienced 14 year Captains at places like express jet were getting passed up in favour of brand new Captains and 3 year FO’s for interviews at UAL.
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I think you will find some (not all) very experienced expressjet capts may have trouble getting work because of a poor attitude or maybe some skeleton's.
Do you really need more than one type rating to prove trainability? I doubt it.
Do you really need more than one type rating to prove trainability? I doubt it.
