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Old 2nd Mar 2020, 12:11
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator View Post
Mate joined Commutair (I think), 50k into the bank......
Must be DEC?
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Old 2nd Mar 2020, 14:49
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Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
Must be DEC?
Must be as FO sign on bonus is 22k
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Old 2nd Mar 2020, 22:58
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
Must be as FO sign on bonus is 22k
Yes thats right. Did you say you work for GoJet mate? You can PM me if you want... I think we were talking on the other forum as well. If so do you know the new structure for FO bonuses with GoJet? There is nothing on their website.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 00:40
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Not Gojet but PM sent.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 00:46
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Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
Yes thats right. Did you say you work for GoJet mate? You can PM me if you want... I think we were talking on the other forum as well. If so do you know the new structure for FO bonuses with GoJet? There is nothing on their website.
See my earlier post that you replied to with the GoJet bonus structure as of April. That was sent to all TSA pilots so it's current as of this week.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 01:09
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Originally Posted by AP3XS View Post
See my earlier post that you replied to with the GoJet bonus structure as of April. That was sent to all TSA pilots so it's current as of this week.
Roger understood. I would imagine due to the influx of pilots from TSA they dont need to keep bonuses high?
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 01:10
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Guy what could be a distinct advantage of flying with GoJet fleet wise compared to the rest of the gang? I hear most others use ERJs and GoJet uses CRJs.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 01:14
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Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
Roger understood. I would imagine due to the influx of pilots from TSA they dont need to keep bonuses high?
Based on what I'm hearing, there are very very few people that are going to GoJet. No one wants to go to another TSH company and everyone is looking at other options. I'd be suprised if GoJet pick up more than 10 TSA pilots. A lot of the regionals are in the same boat as TSA is/was with not enough Captains for the number of FO's so I would guess that over the next few months, bonuses for DEC will increase and FO bonuses will decrease.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 01:18
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Originally Posted by AP3XS View Post
Based on what I'm hearing, there are very very few people that are going to GoJet. No one wants to go to another TSH company and everyone is looking at other options. I'd be suprised if GoJet pick up more than 10 TSA pilots. A lot of the regionals are in the same boat as TSA is/was with not enough Captains for the number of FO's so I would guess that over the next few months, bonuses for DEC will increase and FO bonuses will decrease.
ok I see. Good to know the inside story. Hard to find things out sitting here in Australia. Can I ask it is a common practice for people to leave after first year at a company? I hear the turnover is very high in the US?
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 01:24
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Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
ok I see. Good to know the inside story. Hard to find things out sitting here in Australia. Can I ask it is a common practice for people to leave after first year at a company? I hear the turnover is very high in the US?
Basically all the US pilots have their apps out to the majors and FedEx/UPS as soon as they finish IOE, so they'll leave whenever they get the call up. Maybe within a few months, maybe after a few years, all depends on the hiring market which right now is basically at a stand still. If you're looking at coming to the US I'd be getting on a seniority list ASAP. The only options you have are GoJet, ExpressJet, Mesa and CommutAir. Pick the one that has the domicile you want to live in so you don't have to commute to reserve and go with that one (although I wouldn't personally pick GoJet).
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 23:24
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If you do come, please dont bail on the airline before your E3 is up for renewal.

I cant say for sure but I understand that is why Skywest stopped hiring Australians.
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 08:25
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
If you do come, please dont bail on the airline before your E3 is up for renewal.

I cant say for sure but I understand that is why Skywest stopped hiring Australians.
Unfortunately I can't do that. Suffer for this stupid thing called 'conscious' & 'do the right thing syndrome'. But I fully agree with you...

Are you enjoying your company and flying? Is the QOL good?
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 11:26
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Originally Posted by the_rookie View Post
PPSS you need to read through this thread and do some research on other websites. 90% of the questions you ask, the answers are very easy to find.
Yes I am doing that, I also would like to know the latest info past the TSA and Compass possible closure etc so I am trying to get the most up to date info.
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 11:52
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If you cant commit for 2 years dont come.
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
If you cant commit for 2 years dont come.
2 years will be minimum....I think upgrade itself will take roughly 2years
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 14:59
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Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
Unfortunately I can't do that. Suffer for this stupid thing called 'conscious' & 'do the right thing syndrome'. But I fully agree with you...

Are you enjoying your company and flying? Is the QOL good?
PPSS,

I generally encourage people to try their luck in the US, and help with info where I can, so here goes..

First off, leave that a** backwards GA attitude of "I'm ok Jack" at home. Aussies have worked hard to build a good working reputation with our US counterparts, and that is starting to pay off as we move into more carriers (Atlas and Southern so far).

Secondly, you do not have the same protections as an employee here like you do at home. What that means for you is if you carry on, they can and will get rid you. For an E3 holder, that means you have 10 days to leave the country. On top of that, if you don't give it back, they will litigate you for any signing bonus that you have not met your time commitment for.

Now I hope you come over and join the hundreds of successful Aussies working throughout the US. Just be aware that there are more than a handful that have been sent packing because they couldn't drop some of the more asinine Australian attitudes towards flying.

Good luck, the water is still warm.

Socks
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 09:48
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks View Post
PPSS,

I generally encourage people to try their luck in the US, and help with info where I can, so here goes..

First off, leave that a** backwards GA attitude of "I'm ok Jack" at home. Aussies have worked hard to build a good working reputation with our US counterparts, and that is starting to pay off as we move into more carriers (Atlas and Southern so far).

Secondly, you do not have the same protections as an employee here like you do at home. What that means for you is if you carry on, they can and will get rid you. For an E3 holder, that means you have 10 days to leave the country. On top of that, if you don't give it back, they will litigate you for any signing bonus that you have not met your time commitment for.

Now I hope you come over and join the hundreds of successful Aussies working throughout the US. Just be aware that there are more than a handful that have been sent packing because they couldn't drop some of the more asinine Australian attitudes towards flying.

Good luck, the water is still warm.

Socks
Hello Socks,

Thanks for the message mate. I understand the employee rights are different to those back home. I would imagine it to be pretty cut throat kinda atmosphere with no scope for mollycoddling and no gloves in the US.
However I do not understand what your "I am ok Jack" was in reference to? Also what do you mean by "if you carry on" I dont seem to understand what you are pointing at?
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 05:31
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Old slang...

Originally Posted by PPSS View Post
Hello Socks,

Thanks for the message mate. I understand the employee rights are different to those back home. I would imagine it to be pretty cut throat kinda atmosphere with no scope for mollycoddling and no gloves in the US.
However I do not understand what your "I am ok Jack" was in reference to? Also what do you mean by "if you carry on" I dont seem to understand what you are pointing at?
Jeez, I must be getting old if the "current generation" doesn't know Aussie slang from 2-3 decades ago that's been in use for oh probably the last 70 years at least. How the traditions die

In the interests of levity, to carry on (shortened from ...like a rice pudding... in my family) is basically causing a scene or making a big fuss about not much at all; analogous to making a mountain out of a molehill. The former probably aimed more at children. I'm OK... Jack... well Jack gets blamed for a whole lotta s##t (esp in the Military) so I won't go into it, but in this case it's pretty much Eff-you, go take care of yourself and I'll take care of myself, hence a description of attitude or character.

Around the 90's a lot of Aussie pilots went abroad to seek better fortunes, some were really nice people and others... not so great. Finding my way through the next 2 decades in Asia was occasionally awkward, locals don't forget the bad ones. It's better now, bad memories have faded, but Aussies are kinda newish to the US market in terms of aviation (the US being so "closed ranks" n'all) so it would be sad if a new generation of Aussie pilots go over Stateside with (I'm sorry to say "a millennial attitude") and basically "Go Jack" (yes that's accompanied with a 1 or 2 finger salute).

On 4 continents I've run into pilots who have bumped into Aussie pilots and it all pretty good I'm happy to say, but the most common criticism that comes across (whether over a few drinks or not) implies in some form or other why are Aussies piloting snobs (I'm politely paraphrasing). There are those who dogmatically think they can fly better than anyone else. Frankly everywhere has it's difficulties and each to their own how they deal with them, there isn't always only one solution. Keep the peace guys.

On with the thread...
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 05:56
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Originally Posted by Cross Check View Post
Jeez, I must be getting old if the "current generation" doesn't know Aussie slang from 2-3 decades ago that's been in use for oh probably the last 70 years at least. How the traditions die
Nah, it's just that there are now lots of 'new Australians' around these days that may not have heard of these slangs. Nothing wrong with that and good luck to them. I did the E3 thing in the USA back in 2016 and loved the flying experience. I would thoroughly recommend it to all those who qualify (> 1500 hours etc). You'll never know where that experience may lead you for future job prospects at home or overseas. Sorry for the thread drift.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 12:05
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Ended up receiving paperwork for E3 visa from XJT, so not BS that they were waiting for it from their legal department after all.. have to say I am having second thoughts about leaving a secure job with the current effect that this virus is having on the industry. Or I should say the current effect the media is having on the industry due to the virus. United cancelled a class of 23 new hires with 3 days notice last week. Interesting times ahead.
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