Australian pilots can work for US regionals.
Yes, I remember quite a few North American accents on the Australian airwaves during and after 'that year'.
Have you or anyone of your personal acquaintance experienced anything like that ?
Nothing humans do should be much of a surprise, I guess, but I'd expect such animosity to be rare...and can just be politely ignored. Don't get sucked into any open hostilities over it....ain't worth it.
People here are probably surprised the USA (of all places) had to turn to the expat market to fill airline seats. I have to admit to being one of them but any animosity should be directed at everyone EXCEPT the expats who're just doing what motivated, enterprising people do: take advantage of a decent opportunity, which they had no hand in creating, to advance their career.
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Aussie_pilot85,
Have you or anyone of your personal acquaintance experienced anything like that ?
Nothing humans do should be much of a surprise, I guess, but I'd expect such animosity to be rare...and can just be politely ignored. Don't get sucked into any open hostilities over it....ain't worth it.
People here are probably surprised the USA (of all places) had to turn to the expat market to fill airline seats. I have to admit to being one of them but any animosity should be directed at everyone EXCEPT the expats who're just doing what motivated, enterprising people do: taking advantage of a decent opportunity, which they had no hand in creating, to advance their career.
Have you or anyone of your personal acquaintance experienced anything like that ?
Nothing humans do should be much of a surprise, I guess, but I'd expect such animosity to be rare...and can just be politely ignored. Don't get sucked into any open hostilities over it....ain't worth it.
People here are probably surprised the USA (of all places) had to turn to the expat market to fill airline seats. I have to admit to being one of them but any animosity should be directed at everyone EXCEPT the expats who're just doing what motivated, enterprising people do: taking advantage of a decent opportunity, which they had no hand in creating, to advance their career.
Most of the time it is a lack of understanding, its a free trade visa that swings both ways. Many Americans go to AUS using the same visa just in other industries at the moment due to the aviation industry in AUS only now coming out and hiring after years of layoffs.
Once I explain it and also the fact they are not sponsoring us, just issuing us a letter that says they will not pay us less than they would pay an American and we get the visa on our own it all turns out good (or they refuse to budge and we spend an awkward 4 days together - they also happen to be the CA's that don't tip the van driver, coincidence?)
Keep your nose clean, learn as much as you can, fly as much as you can stand...and have fun !!! ;-)
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Anyone know actually how to qualify for an E3 visa who has experienced the process?
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Flight training is generally recognized as covering 2 years of the bachelor degree so you would need to show 6 years of work experience as a pilot / instructor to qualify if you do not have a degree.
Regionals are going to require 1500 hours total time (plus other FAA requirements) unless you did an approved US aviation college program. Check the airline websites for minimums.
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Aussie_pilot85, I understand that is the US visa speal but I have heard of guys/girls going over there with NO degree and NOT the equivalent of 12 years experience getting the E3 to go into a regional (SkyWest).
Do the minimum hour requirements that are needed for the FAA ATP not cover the experience part of the visa as I was understood to be the case? Since regional's in the US don't actually advertise the job as requiring a degree of some sort surely that makes the degree part and therefor the experience part redundant...
Can anyone else share their experiences especially those guys/girls that were successful or even rejected by the embassy if any are the case??
Do the minimum hour requirements that are needed for the FAA ATP not cover the experience part of the visa as I was understood to be the case? Since regional's in the US don't actually advertise the job as requiring a degree of some sort surely that makes the degree part and therefor the experience part redundant...
Can anyone else share their experiences especially those guys/girls that were successful or even rejected by the embassy if any are the case??
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The E3 visa in general requires a US 4 year bachelor degree in the field applied for (same as H1B). In the absence of a 4 year degree you can substitute 3 years of work experience for every year of a degree. If you do not have any degree you would require 12 years of work experience in that field.
I went through the whole process about 12 months ago and have helped a number of mates get through with the airline I'm with and the E3 visa process. A degree or 12 years industry experience inlieu is not a requirement to get the visa. All you need is a letter from your US employer and the LCA, unless things have changed since 12 months ago.
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Looking at the 8 mentioned regionals taking E3 pilots, how many are taking Aussies "right of the boat" with no FAA ticket whatsoever ? I see that SKW does but not sure about the rest. An amigo was asking about that.
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We had this discussion some time ago, bafanguy, and you seemed surprised it can be done. If you meet the requirements to hold an FAA ATP, then it doesn't matter whether you held an FAA certificate previously or not. The checkride for the type rating doubles as the FAA ATP checkride. This is mandated by the FAA and has nothing to do with the company. Why would other companies add an extra unnecessary hurdle to clear when they are seeking pilots urgently? That wouldn't make any sense.
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I WAS surprised it could be/was being done and don't dispute that at all; sounds good to me ! I make no claim to an intimate knowledge of licensing…FAA or otherwise.
My question was whether all 8 regionals mentioned were using said process or were some still requiring FAA tickets from E3s. As erratic as the airline hiring biz can be, it wouldn't surprise me that some might still be trying to require FAA tickets just cuz they don't want to jump any hurdles they don't have to. They have funny ideas sometimes about what constitutes a hurdle.
I take it none is requiring FAA tickets from the E3s. A buddy was asking about this and I wasn't entirely sure of the answer. Thanks for the info.
I WAS surprised it could be/was being done and don't dispute that at all; sounds good to me ! I make no claim to an intimate knowledge of licensing…FAA or otherwise.
My question was whether all 8 regionals mentioned were using said process or were some still requiring FAA tickets from E3s. As erratic as the airline hiring biz can be, it wouldn't surprise me that some might still be trying to require FAA tickets just cuz they don't want to jump any hurdles they don't have to. They have funny ideas sometimes about what constitutes a hurdle.
I take it none is requiring FAA tickets from the E3s. A buddy was asking about this and I wasn't entirely sure of the answer. Thanks for the info.
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Aussie_pilot85,
Have you or anyone of your personal acquaintance experienced anything like that ?
Nothing humans do should be much of a surprise, I guess, but I'd expect such animosity to be rare...and can just be politely ignored. Don't get sucked into any open hostilities over it....ain't worth it.
People here are probably surprised the USA (of all places) had to turn to the expat market to fill airline seats. I have to admit to being one of them but any animosity should be directed at everyone EXCEPT the expats who're just doing what motivated, enterprising people do: take advantage of a decent opportunity, which they had no hand in creating, to advance their career.
Have you or anyone of your personal acquaintance experienced anything like that ?
Nothing humans do should be much of a surprise, I guess, but I'd expect such animosity to be rare...and can just be politely ignored. Don't get sucked into any open hostilities over it....ain't worth it.
People here are probably surprised the USA (of all places) had to turn to the expat market to fill airline seats. I have to admit to being one of them but any animosity should be directed at everyone EXCEPT the expats who're just doing what motivated, enterprising people do: take advantage of a decent opportunity, which they had no hand in creating, to advance their career.