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Old 13th Jan 2023, 02:01
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In 2019 training pay at Frontier was 75 hours guarantee, unsure if it has changed since then
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Old 13th Jan 2023, 02:17
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Originally Posted by cxflog
In 2019 training pay at Frontier was 75 hours guarantee, unsure if it has changed since then
Frontier doesn't do training pay per say anymore. From day 1 you are paid minimum guarantee, which is as you stated, 75 hours. Spirit has a training pay, which I think got about $1000/month better than what it was with their new TA.
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Old 13th Jan 2023, 05:51
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks
Frontier doesn't do training pay per se anymore. From day 1 you are paid minimum guarantee, which is as you stated, 75 hours. Spirit has a training pay, which I think got about $1000/month better than what it was with their new TA.
My apologies for the wrong info and thanks for the correction!
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Old 13th Jan 2023, 19:40
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Probs the question with Frontier is if they front accomodation costs for training, didn't used to but may have changed in the current climate.
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Old 13th Jan 2023, 22:04
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Originally Posted by tossbag
Probs the question with Frontier is if they front accomodation costs for training, didn't used to but may have changed in the current climate.
They do.

Spirit was a great place to work and by all accounts a great job. However, with the unwillingness for anything substantial to be done about the training pay in the latest contract, I wouldn't advise anyone to go there. You quite literally need savings or a loan to join Spirit, and it's unacceptable in the current climate.

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Old 13th Jan 2023, 22:36
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn
They do.

Spirit was a great place to work and by all accounts a great job. However, with the unwillingness for anything substantial to be done about the training pay in the latest contract, I wouldn't advise anyone to go there. You quite literally need savings or a loan to join Spirit, and it's unacceptable in the current climate.
is the JetBlue merger a consideration for joining spirit?
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Old 13th Jan 2023, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
is the JetBlue merger a consideration for joining spirit?
Sure, but it's all up to interpretation. Some would consider it great, others would go elsewhere to avoid it.

No one knows how it's going to play out. I guess if you go to Spirit expecting to end up at JetBlue, you'll have completed training already by the time those chips start to fall and my point will be moot. Unless of course you get hospitalized from all the instant noodles you'll be forced to survive on
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 01:26
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Originally Posted by Brakerider
is the JetBlue merger a consideration for joining spirit?
Mergers historically end up with everyone compromising something, with junior pilots doing more of the compromising than others. If Spirit or JB is the goal, the merger comes with great job security at the cost of a very slow upgrade. If a relatively quick command is the goal, F9 is probably the better bet. Or if option 3 is your goal, attain a green card once you're here and go further up the food chain, then either is as good as the other.
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Old 14th Jan 2023, 21:46
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They do.
In that case, I reckon Frontier would be prime.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:39
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These bonuses are getting out of hand.


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Old 15th Jan 2023, 21:53
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Originally Posted by ausflyer
Howdy all.
Is there someone on here that mite have a few minutes to discuss a Visa enquiry pls? PM preferred. Ta.
This a thread about E3 visas.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 22:39
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Yup. I gathered that

Any value in renewing my B1/B2 whilst on the US job hunt? Current one expires in a week from today.

Or just head in and out of the US without one whilst doing the rounds of the Job Road Shows & Regionals?

Before l get ambushed, again, I'm fully focused on an E3 and may need a "filler" (B1/B2) Visa in the interim.

(Had B1/B2's for the last 20 years)

PM's most welcome.

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Old 15th Jan 2023, 23:17
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Hard to tell, but would say ... better safe than sorry ... One never knows what the rules will be like tomorrow.

If you wouldn't mind the question, how easy, or dificult, is to renew the B1/B2 ? (if you happen to know the answer)

I have a B1/B2 which came along with a C1/D (Crew). Don't ask me why. My understanding would be that I would need the C1/D, but the embassy said that I would need both of them.

My B1/B2 is also going to expire in a couple of months.


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Old 16th Jan 2023, 17:34
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Originally Posted by ausflyer
Yup. I gathered that

Any value in renewing my B1/B2 whilst on the US job hunt? Current one expires in a week from today.

Or just head in and out of the US without one whilst doing the rounds of the Job Road Shows & Regionals?

Before l get ambushed, again, I'm fully focused on an E3 and may need a "filler" (B1/B2) Visa in the interim.

(Had B1/B2's for the last 20 years)

PM's most welcome.

Aus'
Unless you want something niche, most, if not all operators that hire Aussies fresh off the boat will give you a virtual interview. I'd advise not to waste your money on a job hunt trip. Also I think the legalities if seeking work on a B visa are a little hazy. You wouldn't want to risk an unfavourable interpretation.
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Old 17th Jan 2023, 21:34
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Originally Posted by tossbag
In that case, I reckon Frontier would be prime.
I kinda disagree.

Short term (first six to twelve months) Iíd agree. Conditions in the first three months for new hires at Spirit are poor. Going forward Spirits pay is ~ 22% higher and their retirement is slightly better. Spirits contract is far better in terms of QOL. Upgrade time is a wash time wise. Fourth year Captain pay is $286 at Spirit and $225 at Frontier. Yes, Frontier may sign a new contract and all of this may change for the better. On the other hand, Biffle would rather gnaw off his own leg. Frontiers $50K loan may be attractive on the surface, but a new hire will end up with ~ $35K after tax and have to pay back $50K if they leave within three years.

Regarding the Spirit/Jet Blue merger; itís going to take three to five years before a seniority list integration is complete (f the DOJ approves). Whichever way it goes, a new hire today would potentially be in the left seat by then. Iíd rather be at either the combined company or a standalone Spirit than Frontier.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 08:40
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Sorry Dude, you are right. I was more looking at Spirit's previous training pay (which was shit). And the QOL is meant to be real good at Spirit. I chatted to old mate at Spirit and training pay is a bit better, not a whole lot, but better. I think upgrade will be quicker at Frontier once the Spirit/Jet Blue merger happens though.
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Old 18th Jan 2023, 14:26
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Can't remember if this has been posted so here it is: Allegiant Airlines taking E3s but an FAA ATP is listed as a requirement. Maybe they're targeting US regional E3s ?

https://jobs.lever.co/allegiantair/1...8-4457d07fdbad

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I had to laugh today when I saw an ad for a King Air driver based in Kununurra,

The minimum experience and qualifications for the King Air are as follows:

2500 hours total flying
1500 hours pilot in command
500 hours multi engine command
50 hours in command BE20

USA mins to fly a E170, CRJ 900 etc for everyone including an E3 visa applicant.

1,500 hours of Total Flight Time
500 hours of Cross-Country Flight Time
250 hours as Pilot-In-Command (PIC)
100 hours of Night Flight Time
75 hours of Instrument Training
50 hours multi


Tell him he's dreaming!
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 11:25
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So the King Air job is Single Pilot most likely?

The Jet job in the USA is copilot?

Flying a jet as a copilot is child’s play in comparison. In fact, flying a jet is child’s play.
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Old 21st Jan 2023, 14:54
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
So the King Air job is Single Pilot most likely?

The Jet job in the USA is copilot?

Flying a jet as a copilot is childís play in comparison. In fact, flying a jet is childís play.
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From US part 135 Cargo airline job section. The Beech 99 is an unpressurized King Air flown single pilot usually at night. Even the 1900 mins are lower than the Kununurra job.

Captain Positions

  • BE99 Captain: 1,200 TT, 50 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 500 PIC, 75 instrument
  • BE1900 Captain: 1,800 TT, 250 ME, 500 XC (defined as point to point), 100 night, 1,000 PIC, 100 instrument, 100 Turbine, 121 or 135 experience

I have done single pilot turbine and FO in a jet. If you think flying a King Air around the top end is harder than getting a jet in and outa Chicago in heavy snow, you are mistaken. If it's your leg you fly it.

Are you saying jet FOs in Oz just warm a seat?

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