QF TO GET 787 !!!
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QF TO GET 787 !!!
Qantas orders Boeing 787-9 inaugural flight 2017 - Australian Business Traveller
MEL/DFW mentioned.
What other new routes ?
A twice weekly OZ/Colorado maybe in winter & other LAX hub busting routes ?
Daily SYD/YVR & some from BNE & MEL maybe ?
MEL/DFW mentioned.
What other new routes ?
A twice weekly OZ/Colorado maybe in winter & other LAX hub busting routes ?
Daily SYD/YVR & some from BNE & MEL maybe ?
But BNEA320 - what about the fact that the crews will be hired on contract for minimum wages?
And what is your basis for that statement, apart from trying a big stir ???
Tootle pip!!
But BNEA320 - what about the fact that the crews will be hired on contract for minimum wages?
And what is your basis for that statement, apart from trying a big stir ???
Tootle pip!!
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GG not everyone actually wants to be an airline pilot, not a vocation (note: I didn't use the word profession) that interest me
You blokes are completely detached from reality.
Wow 8 DLs in 3 or 4 years , lets have a look at some of the esteemed airlines that already have them, let's see now Aeromexico, Ethiopian , Kenya & that bastion of the airline establishment Royal Air Maroc.
QF is so far behind you think you are in front
Lets have a look at one or two docs , lets see now here is your 1985 Route map:
1985/86: QANTAS Network | Airline Route
How many destinations there do you not fly to now, well just in Europe there is Amsterdam, Frankfurt, , Manchester ,Athens , Paris , Belgrade , Anyone want to count how many destinations in total you have dropped since then ? or from your 1973 route map ?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/caribb/5408775461
Likely 20 destinations dropped , maybe 3 or 4 picked up whoo hoo !, whoo hoo !
I tell you something , if Tommy Two Tunes (1982 "Jenny whats your number) gets his band back together, they ain't gonna pack out the MCG.
& if QF get 787s well that isn't gonna get you back in the game as an international airline, its over guys its just over
The fact is that QF Int is in terminal decline & has been for decades. The only reason a profit was made was that you just got extremely lucky with a plummeting fuel price, aside from that it would have been yet another massive loss.
You blokes are completely detached from reality.
Wow 8 DLs in 3 or 4 years , lets have a look at some of the esteemed airlines that already have them, let's see now Aeromexico, Ethiopian , Kenya & that bastion of the airline establishment Royal Air Maroc.
QF is so far behind you think you are in front
Lets have a look at one or two docs , lets see now here is your 1985 Route map:
1985/86: QANTAS Network | Airline Route
How many destinations there do you not fly to now, well just in Europe there is Amsterdam, Frankfurt, , Manchester ,Athens , Paris , Belgrade , Anyone want to count how many destinations in total you have dropped since then ? or from your 1973 route map ?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/caribb/5408775461
Likely 20 destinations dropped , maybe 3 or 4 picked up whoo hoo !, whoo hoo !
I tell you something , if Tommy Two Tunes (1982 "Jenny whats your number) gets his band back together, they ain't gonna pack out the MCG.
& if QF get 787s well that isn't gonna get you back in the game as an international airline, its over guys its just over
The fact is that QF Int is in terminal decline & has been for decades. The only reason a profit was made was that you just got extremely lucky with a plummeting fuel price, aside from that it would have been yet another massive loss.
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Flyboat North, I know you love to troll, so I will just have a small bite at your jovial ****-stirring:
I am glad that God hasn't called you to be an airline pilot, because God help us we would all be rooted.
Whilst I am sure you have your big book of grammar, here is a little reference to help you:
What is the difference between Vocation and Profession?
• Though both vocation, as well as profession, indicates the career or the occupation through which an individual makes a livelihood, vocation is a broader term than profession.
• Profession refers to the career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.
• Vocation refers to an occupation for which god gives a calling to the individual.
• Vocation can mean not just the profession or the occupation that an individual pursues for a living but also the occupation for which he receives a calling from god.
• Profession requires training and qualification whereas vocation is the innate ability in an individual towards a particular occupation.
• In modern times, a vocation refers to an occupation for which a person has special abilities or is trained to do that job.
GG not everyone actually wants to be an airline pilot, not a vocation (note: I didn't use the word profession) that interest me
Whilst I am sure you have your big book of grammar, here is a little reference to help you:
What is the difference between Vocation and Profession?
• Though both vocation, as well as profession, indicates the career or the occupation through which an individual makes a livelihood, vocation is a broader term than profession.
• Profession refers to the career that one opts for, getting extensive training and acquiring special skills to become eligible for a job in it.
• Vocation refers to an occupation for which god gives a calling to the individual.
• Vocation can mean not just the profession or the occupation that an individual pursues for a living but also the occupation for which he receives a calling from god.
• Profession requires training and qualification whereas vocation is the innate ability in an individual towards a particular occupation.
• In modern times, a vocation refers to an occupation for which a person has special abilities or is trained to do that job.
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I'll bite
Hey FBN.
Why don't you just go somewhere else. Your contribution to anything in this forum is zero.
For your information, many of my colleagues (including me) have degrees in professions that you wouldn't even qualify for, including medicine, engineering and science. Some have PHD's and had them before flying. Other's studied for them after getting into the airlines to further their professional development. We have guys that have university medals because of their academic performance.
Some of us have flown wide body jets internationally as Captains, others have not yet had that opportunity because of the way the seniority system works. We are all pilots because we choose to be. We do not pretend to be something we are not.
Judging by your attitude on this forum, even if you wanted to be a pilot with an airline, you would probably never make it. There are psychological tests that most big companies (including airlines) employ now that would find you lacking in the most basic of requirements. I'd even hazard a guess that you'll be struggling to get a reasonable job in almost any field with a big company, unless you change your attitude a lot.
And in case you missed the name of the forum, it is PROFESSIONAL pilots rumour network.
So, i'll repeat what I wrote earlier as you appear to be a slow learner:
Why don't you just go somewhere else?
BW
Why don't you just go somewhere else. Your contribution to anything in this forum is zero.
For your information, many of my colleagues (including me) have degrees in professions that you wouldn't even qualify for, including medicine, engineering and science. Some have PHD's and had them before flying. Other's studied for them after getting into the airlines to further their professional development. We have guys that have university medals because of their academic performance.
Some of us have flown wide body jets internationally as Captains, others have not yet had that opportunity because of the way the seniority system works. We are all pilots because we choose to be. We do not pretend to be something we are not.
Judging by your attitude on this forum, even if you wanted to be a pilot with an airline, you would probably never make it. There are psychological tests that most big companies (including airlines) employ now that would find you lacking in the most basic of requirements. I'd even hazard a guess that you'll be struggling to get a reasonable job in almost any field with a big company, unless you change your attitude a lot.
And in case you missed the name of the forum, it is PROFESSIONAL pilots rumour network.
So, i'll repeat what I wrote earlier as you appear to be a slow learner:
Why don't you just go somewhere else?
BW
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Please folks, can we leave the attacks out of these threads. They achieve nothing, apart from wasting time. I keep noticing new posts on this thread, jump on to hear about 789 stuff & instead get this continuing fight. Let FBN go, we're bigger than that.
Some earlier quotes from the oracle Flyboat;
Try $267 million.
It just did happen.
Well that says about as much as one needs to about the "facts" coming from Flyboat.
If you must contribute to this forum FN, how about, "I'm sorry, I was wrong.... again."
Just look at the scenario QF International has , it is mathematically impossible for them to make a profit.
QF management spending billions to buy you guys 787s , forget it guys , it just ain't gonna happen.
Well that says about as much as one needs to about the "facts" coming from Flyboat.
If you must contribute to this forum FN, how about, "I'm sorry, I was wrong.... again."
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I don't think hold a BAvn which is the degree many pilots have is much of a degree at all really
The academics of ATPLs , four week PPLs , six or eight week CPLs at Bob Tait, six or eight week ATPLs on the coast. Twenty weeks tops , at a vocational level , not Uni(as in proper Uni) level.
Which is why many ATPL holders have year 9 or 10 & can still pass all without any fuss - goodluck to them I say. But it is at vocational level & long way beneath more rigorous aviation academics of the UK , NZ , Sing , HK etc etc.
I had a copper tell me once that her police prosecutors course of three months was the equivalent to a full year of a law degree. She wouldn't have got anywhere near law school with average academics at year 12 , but for some reason a few years later believed she was at top of the food chain.
If you wish to equate to something more , like a PhD good for you , I just think it will be a bit of a hard sell in the real world.
Was in Asia recently & had misfortune to be staying at the QF hotel. Well you should have seen the preening & posing around the lobby by the good QF crews.
There wouldn't have been a cabin crew member under 50 , it was a bizarre spectacle , I know the words have just came to me , it sort of looked like some kind of guided swingers tour.
And really that is why your international division is doomed , staff costs. Would imagine the CC would all be 20 plus years , all picking up at least $140, 000
You guys just aren't in the game
The academics of ATPLs , four week PPLs , six or eight week CPLs at Bob Tait, six or eight week ATPLs on the coast. Twenty weeks tops , at a vocational level , not Uni(as in proper Uni) level.
Which is why many ATPL holders have year 9 or 10 & can still pass all without any fuss - goodluck to them I say. But it is at vocational level & long way beneath more rigorous aviation academics of the UK , NZ , Sing , HK etc etc.
I had a copper tell me once that her police prosecutors course of three months was the equivalent to a full year of a law degree. She wouldn't have got anywhere near law school with average academics at year 12 , but for some reason a few years later believed she was at top of the food chain.
If you wish to equate to something more , like a PhD good for you , I just think it will be a bit of a hard sell in the real world.
Was in Asia recently & had misfortune to be staying at the QF hotel. Well you should have seen the preening & posing around the lobby by the good QF crews.
There wouldn't have been a cabin crew member under 50 , it was a bizarre spectacle , I know the words have just came to me , it sort of looked like some kind of guided swingers tour.
And really that is why your international division is doomed , staff costs. Would imagine the CC would all be 20 plus years , all picking up at least $140, 000
You guys just aren't in the game
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Hey,Flyingboat. I have a Science degree plus being a happy legacy carrier Airline Pilot. What is your problem???. Good luck to the QF guys and gals who get to do their conversion in Seattle.Dont miss the clam chowder at Fishermans Wharf.