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Old 29th Sep 2015, 04:48
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I can sympathize with those struggling to move up the ladder, I really can, but you've got to get over how many hours you've got and start looking at other attributes, that's the way HR are looking at things so you need to adapt or give up... as harsh as that might sound.
Well from my experience that is not how it works it is all about hours.

End of the day nobody cares about how much of a hotshot you are or your HD average at uni.

You don't get a shot at a job if you don't have the hours....period.

The way it should work in IMHO is airlines should screen people early on in their career and annoint them as suitable then when they reach x hours they can get a start.

That way you have something to work toward, people are then really recruited on talent and it cuts out the BS lottery element that is GA.

Seen alot of guys race into airlines young who just happened to be well connect in GA circles who were not as good as people who were less connected but because they could get into the interview and the other guy couldn't they got recruited. Then there's a downturn and now he's stuck in some job collecting hours they are now deemed useless by HR.

I left GA after 1500 hours and was more than capable as a Turbo-Prop F/O followed quickly by a command.
And heres the rub 'back in the day' you wouldn't have even got an interview with that sort of experience

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Old 29th Sep 2015, 05:37
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So does anyone know of the types of tech questions likely to be asked during these specific interviews? Or stock standard Jetstar interview questions?

Obviously there is the behavioural questions, questions about Jetstar NZ and the Dash 8, questions relating to your current operations (instructing/ charter/ multi crew), aircraft specific questions on most current type? How about law related questions... Maybe IREX, F&D?
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 06:48
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I heard that a stock standard question was 'what engine does the dash 8 300 have?' Apparently only a couple of candidates could answer, so I would think just some basic dash8 knowledge from an airline inflight mag or similar might be appropriate.

Perhaps learn the specs from:

http://www.jetstar.com/nz/en/about-us/our-fleet

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Old 29th Sep 2015, 07:04
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I had to laugh Ollie at the fact the engines, according to their own website, are General Electric PW123E...

No wonder some didn't know if they went there!
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 09:11
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From my experience, the GE123E was always more reliable than the PW123E
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 12:21
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Hours- Hours - and NO Hours

Colleagues in Europe continually tell me they fly with F/Os - straight out of KLS/CAE/CTC schools getting a F/O posn in A320/B737NGs. They only do 40 sectors Line Training, are immediately rated CAT3B and do 'International Flights' from the first day on LINE TRAINING.

Tell me its a joke - Jetstar Australia doing 6mths Line Trg and NOT allowed to do 'International Flights' as a F/O for 12mths ?????????

Oh - I forgot to mention-- the multi-lingual crew - you know
- French/German/Austrians/Dutch/Czech/Polish/Italian/Spanish/Irish (Bloody leprechauns)/Portuguese/Algerians/Morroccans/Danish/Swedes/Norwegians (all bloody Vikings!)/Serbs/GREEKS (oh my GOD)/Turks(oh my double GOD)- thats just the Flight deck.
- You can double the above number for Cabin Crew languages I have flown with!! :

Did I mention the multi-lingual ATC? - Parlez-vous français ?

Is there an airport in Oz or enzed that has 7 acft stacked on the ILS approach during rush hours ?
- has 4 parrallel rwys ?
- gives 50% of the ATC instr in French?
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Old 30th Sep 2015, 00:52
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It's no joke, I arrived in OZ with a type rating and many thousands of hours on the aircraft flying all over he globe and was made to complete 120 hours of line training which took about 4 months due to lots of trainees at the time. Still, didn't worry me, I just enjoyed the ride, wasn't very taxing so was able to use the time to get my head around Aussie 'quirks'.

I guess you just accept the overkill in training hours and make the most of it.
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Old 1st Oct 2015, 07:32
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The Gods must be CRAZY

No - I correct myself
- the Gods ARE CRAZY

They create mountains just to satisfy their egos.
I heard (BBQ here at the beach)- that one 'self created GOD' in NZ refused to train a DEC on a T prop because the Trainee was 'not current flying in the NZFIR'.

Being 'current flying in the NZFIR' is NOT a NZCAA repuirement.

Thats why their are TRAINING departments.?

But a quick search reveals 'xxxx does NOT train'.
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Old 1st Oct 2015, 22:49
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Originally Posted by Bula Bandit View Post
No - I correct myself
- the Gods ARE CRAZY

They create mountains just to satisfy their egos.
I heard (BBQ here at the beach)- that one 'self created GOD' in NZ refused to train a DEC on a T prop because the Trainee was 'not current flying in the NZFIR'.

Being 'current flying in the NZFIR' is NOT a NZCAA repuirement.

Thats why their are TRAINING departments.?

But a quick search reveals 'xxxx does NOT train'.
Was that relating to Jetstar or Eastern training department?
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Old 1st Oct 2015, 23:49
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The Gods must be CRAZY
No - I correct myself
- the Gods ARE CRAZY

They create mountains just to satisfy their egos.
I heard (BBQ here at the beach)- that one 'self created GOD' in NZ refused to train a DEC on a T prop because the Trainee was 'not current flying in the NZFIR'.

Being 'current flying in the NZFIR' is NOT a NZCAA repuirement.

Thats why their are TRAINING departments.?

But a quick search reveals 'xxxx does NOT train'.
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with this thread.
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Old 2nd Oct 2015, 01:31
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Aeolus2000, you've now flogged Eagle and Jetstar's training. Is there anyone else you would like to add that doesn't meet the lofty heights of European LCC's in this part of the world?
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 04:33
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I heard (BBQ here at the beach)- that one 'self created GOD' in NZ refused to train a DEC on a T prop because the Trainee was 'not current flying in the NZFIR'.

Being 'current flying in the NZFIR' is NOT a NZCAA repuirement.
been posted before mate. starting a fake noob to keep riding your hobby horse is a bit of a no no
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 05:41
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I've heard JQ offered current Qlink pilots position (while they take LWOP) on the local wages at that was quickly shot down. Onya boys and girls.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 06:56
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A few Q400 FO's worked out they would be worse off going to the left seat in NZ so withdrew their interest.

Pretty sure only 1 person has taken up the offer yet.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 08:41
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Shades of Ansett NZ with the wage structure. Ansett had to bring Aussie pilots on Aussie wages to get that up and running. That scenario ended up with NZ Ansett crew being paid a lot more than other New Zealand pilots. We all know where that ultimately ended.

I wonder if it's a portent of things to come.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 08:53
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The pay on offer is actually not bad, it matches that of 1st year Air Nelson. The problem this operation has go is that there is not enough lead in time to get it fully crewed locally when you set the requirements so high from the off.

Yes the operation will start with a large Ozzie contingent but that will be reduced as local crews are recruited and come on line.
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Old 3rd Oct 2015, 09:51
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Pilat,

I agree, they won't attract many from OZ, like Jetstar NZ the CP positions will be filled by OZ captains coming over for one or two weeks at a time until some DEC's can be recruited or FO's upgraded.
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 06:57
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The problem this operation has go is that there is not enough lead in time to get it fully crewed locally when you set the requirements so high from the off.
I wonder how the local crew will feel seeing other crew doing the same job on better money?
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 19:40
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So what actually is the pay ? I doubt its enough to live in Auckland.

What about allowances / bonuses etc ?

Any chance of basing somewhere other than Auckland

Particularly what is the command pay ? I had heard somewhere that some people were offered a deal for quick command (6 months to a year) but it sounds BS to me.

I would appreciate some facts & numbers from anyone actually in the know.

I'm slightly interested...

PM would be fine. Thanks so much people !
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Old 4th Oct 2015, 22:37
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From what I have heard ( third hand) the actual figures are about 65% of the above figures. If it was any good then those that have applied would have been happy to post it on here so I'm picking it's a bit rubbish.
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