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B717 Fleet to increase to 20.

Old 14th Aug 2015, 08:49
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Originally Posted by training wheels View Post
Where are the majority of Cobham B717 FO's recruited from?

Qlink (EAA and Sunstate)?
The last expansion had people from the RAAF, QLink, Rex, Skippers, Toll and a number of other operators. I don't think they target any particular airline but as with any recruiter they take the best candidates they can get.
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 04:54
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I believe there is a clause in the contract that says Cobham must be the sole provider of type for QF,or words to that effect.
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Miss F View Post
I believe there is a clause in the contract that says Cobham must be the sole provider of type for QF,or words to that effect.
That being the case, why are these two jets on such shaky ground according to Cobham HQ? Wouldn't be industrial would it?
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 10:19
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If Qantas and every other airline are serious about cutting down on expenses and making money and they are then the two additional 717's will go to Cobham. Once the contract is up for renewal in 2018 well then it's anyone's guess where the entire fleet will end up. I say this as I have heard things as some of you may have too.
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Old 17th Aug 2015, 22:38
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AOG in Canberra, Qlink have a grand total of 3 mechanical LAMEs on type to carry out an engine change, all of which have never done one. No doubt the one good connie they have will be left on his own to struggle through. The Cry for help has already been sent out by their puppet master to no avail. Apparently when you sack 14 staff from another company they'll still have a surplus of arms & legs.......& will be willing to help out....haha. Sad to hear their own mates won't come to the rescue, but then again if you know much about the link you have no mates.

Shame you can't change an engine with incompetence, daggers and undermining. Plenty of that going round that place. I heard a connie walked out on them a few weeks back because the environment was so toxic.

Sit back and enjoy the show.
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Old 18th Aug 2015, 00:03
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Bravo!

Spot on Empire! Might as well park them against the fence and send the drivers on holiday!

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Old 20th Aug 2015, 06:35
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That being the case, why are these two jets on such shaky ground according to Cobham HQ? Wouldn't be industrial would it?
Nope. That's just how they like to run the show.
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Old 20th Aug 2015, 11:23
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Appropriate- 'Capacity'....

Hmmmmm- WOW, really..........

'28BE Duty to exercise care and diligence
(1) The holder of an AOC must at all times take all reasonable steps to ensure that every activity covered by the AOC, and everything done in connection with such an activity, is done with a reasonable degree of care and diligence.
(2) If the holder is a body having legal personality, each of its directors must also take the steps specified in subsection (1).
(3) It is evidence of a failure by a body and its directors to comply with this section if an act covered by this section is done without a reasonable degree of care and diligence mainly because of:
(a) inadequate corporate management, control or supervision of the conduct of any of the body’s directors, employees or agents; or
(b) failure to provide adequate systems for communicating relevant information to relevant people in the body.'


28BF Organisation, personnel etc.
(1) The holder of an AOC must at all times maintain an appropriate organisation, with a sufficient number of appropriately qualified personnel and a sound and effective management structure, having regard to the nature of the operations covered by the AOC.
(2) The holder must establish and maintain any supervisory positions in the organisation, or in any training and checking organisation established as part of it, that CASA directs, having regard to the nature of the operations covered by the AOC.
(My bolding...)

So are 'we' really doing an 'Engine Change' right here right now at CBR (as described above)- under 'those' circumstances............... surely not!!!!

If, the said 'Meal Ticket Holders' want to P.M. me, I'll prosecute the bejeezus out of that sucker for you......... at nil consumed voucher cost- you keep the sustanance/feed/gluttony..... all good 'boys'!!!!!!!!!

By the way, did the 'Bruce', put #4 into S28-BE:

(4) No action lies, for damages or compensation, in respect of a contravention of this section.
All good- I feel so safe.......... good job, lads!!!

Bell me- should you want some 'rattle & hum'..............., or maybe not... good job this Low Cost Carrier show!!!!, well done all.

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Old 20th Aug 2015, 11:41
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Maintenance & operating AOCs' are two entirely separate things. Just because you fly something on RPT operations doesn't mean you maintain it.
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Old 20th Aug 2015, 13:16
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Yes, indeed they are 2x separate components, I guess 'one' may or may not need a Maintenance Organisation (as part of being an Air Operator) to put 'stuff' on the ramp for meat that may/may not want to pay to move.........

The 'aparent' description above- 'may' suggest, someone is a tad 'short'- maybe not, I don't know........

Really- is that how it rolls........, drive it til the noise stops.

Good Work- I'm out, god speed to you!!!!!!!

Hat, Coat- Door at speed.............. sorry for disturbing ya' all, strewth.

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p.s.- do you 'drive' one PLovett....... if so, for whom????, just a general interest thing mate.........
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Old 20th Aug 2015, 13:37
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My bad- just wasn't aware of the operators, opt out of airworthiness option.

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Old 21st Aug 2015, 05:15
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S28-BE, probably my bad. By "maintain" I meant be the responsible organisation that signs off on the work. Cobham may well operate the beasties but it may not be Cobham who is responsible for the signatures in the maintenance logs. Thats all I mean.

Drive one!!! Good grief sir, what are you smoking? Not now since I had a rush of insanity and decided that taking on CASA would be more productive.
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Old 22nd Aug 2015, 11:19
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Mr Lovett-

All good/cool- do hear where you are coming from.

For my part, once- Reg Compliance wasn't open to Committee/ 'Individual'/ Regulatory (operative) Campaigning/ or Personal Interpretation- be it, buying in/ or operating a Maintenance Organisation........ 'one' was responsible- end of story. And as such, the designated Representative of the Regulator was involved/ & working together in 'real time'.....

In this world of Regulator/ or 3rd Party Aviation Safety Consultant- Empire Building & Issue Capture/ the Low Cost Carrier Model that we've watched since the 2000's (yup, I'm running a theme here...)- there are (in 'my' view) a number blinding abrogation's or diffusion of Responsibilities.....- 3rd Party Load Control & Dispatch in AU (be it Domestic or Intl), is another........

Anyhoo- good luck to you Sir, you with your:

'since I had a rush of insanity and decided that taking on CASA would be more productive.'
Reckon, you'll get more than Hangar Rash out of that journey- but go hard and well done on devoting the time/& $'s...............

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Old 29th Aug 2015, 12:16
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Only 20? Are you sure it's not a few (3) more, total 23?
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Old 30th Aug 2015, 05:51
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How long will Qlink be a sub contracting business and start operating all these aircraft from the different businesses....Cobham Network Sunstate Easterns ?there's got to be savings in only having the one business sharing the parent companies operational safety IT etc departments.
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Old 30th Aug 2015, 11:59
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Where did the other 3 come from, I'm pretty sure it's only 2 more 71's
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 00:16
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All's a bit quiet!

Any news on the fate of the two new aircraft? Seems that everything has gone quiet.

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Old 10th Sep 2015, 00:50
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Find out this week supposedly. The official line from HQ is they are still hanging in the balance, they could go anywhere.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 01:22
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The 4 remaining global operators are all bidding the price up

Boeing sales-flop 717 now a hit as secondhand jetliner | The Seattle Times

Given Volotea (founded in 2011) has grown the quickest I suspect it is going to get forced onto a new type sooner.
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 14:59
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Word is out that the 2 717's have been allocated to Cobham, as expected.
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