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Old 6th May 2015, 10:43
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Sydney Airport

When told to hold short Sierra, and you turn the corner, there is no need to report "Sydney tower virgin 344, holding short Sierra, ready" just report ready.

When talking to director, they do not require your heading. If you are on a heading of 330 and maintaining 6000, just say "director, Rex 1134, 6000, 16R in sight."

And tower guys, why do we need a clearance to cross an inactive runway? Think of the reduction on calls, the saving of fuel, the reduction in brake wear if we could just be cleared all the way to 16L / 34R. You guys seem to be able to do it when we exit the runway to the bay, but not the other way around, and it's up hill. The airlines are on our back day in day out for efficiencies, it's time everyone else pitches in where they can!

Cue the recent increase in ATR/Dash single engine taxi sightings... Do you guys tell your passengers you are doing it?
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Old 6th May 2015, 10:45
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Yes, there is a PA for SETI on the Q400s.
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Old 6th May 2015, 10:56
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Originally Posted by skkm View Post
Yes, there is a PA for SETI on the Q400s.
Awesome. It looks crazy from a non fliers perspective.
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Old 6th May 2015, 11:05
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Heading info

You certainly had to report your heading to Director at one point in time.
Are you sure that the requirement no longer stands?
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Old 6th May 2015, 11:32
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Very sure.

No where says you must report heading to director.
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Old 6th May 2015, 13:04
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Isn't a proviso of reporting ready to be in the vicinity of the holding point? Is Sierra in the vicinity?
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Old 6th May 2015, 13:12
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No where says you must report heading to director
See Jepp ATC Communications AU-926 7.7 Frequency Management

"Transfer of Control AND/OR Frequency Change"
- a pilot contacting next frequency when on a heading .....Phraseology pilot transmission ....HEADING (as previously assigned)


It does not state that the requirement is valid in all cases except when contacting Director.
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Old 6th May 2015, 13:39
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If you are on a heading of 330 and maintaining 6000, just say "director, Rex 1134, 6000, 16R in sight."
Admittedly murky, but a few examples of calls in AIP state "Maintaining 6000".
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This is now a radio calls pet hate thread.

GO!
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Old 6th May 2015, 15:23
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Traffic and code, pending clearance, etc etc etc
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Old 6th May 2015, 21:08
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Deja-vu

Here we go again - another whinge thread

No we dont
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