Qantas Fleet Order Speculation
Sounds like a good idea in part but no first,less J and twice the support for 2 jets. The premium classes defines the dfw service
There were many people working on the 787 introduction in Jetstar even when it became obvious the thing was going to be delayed. Until the executive say stop it will be full steam ahead.
The 350 is the right aeroplane for Jetstar. The 787/777
Is the right aeroplane for qantas.
Ever thought the 350s may be for Jetstar, and the existing 787s might be punted back to qantas as domestic 330 replacements? Jetstar only have 'widebody' described in the EBA.
Is the 777 included in the new QF LH EBA as the 787, being a common type rating?
Is the right aeroplane for qantas.
Ever thought the 350s may be for Jetstar, and the existing 787s might be punted back to qantas as domestic 330 replacements? Jetstar only have 'widebody' described in the EBA.
Is the 777 included in the new QF LH EBA as the 787, being a common type rating?
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Does anyone know the true cruising speed of the A350 (not the manufacturer's stated figure)? With QF planning a lot of ULR flights, the cruise speed becomes critical because of crew duty limitations. The B787 is a true M0.85 cruise and can cruise faster without significant fuel penalty. That is what the A350 must cruise at to be able to operate the sectors that QF management are planning which are near the crew duty limits (a CASA exemption will be required for some sectors).
Airbus always insisted that the A380 would climb to F350 at max weight and cruise at M0.85 - yes, it can do that, but not in an operational sense so it's desirable to know what the true capabilities of the A350 are.
GG, the new EBA is specific that those conditions are for the B787 only so if any other type (eg B777X or A350) is ordered, then negotiations will have to held to determine the T's & C's for the new type.
Airbus always insisted that the A380 would climb to F350 at max weight and cruise at M0.85 - yes, it can do that, but not in an operational sense so it's desirable to know what the true capabilities of the A350 are.
Is the 777 included in the new QF LH EBA as the 787, being a common type rating?
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Most crew for the 787 will come from the NG. Short course endorsement.
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In fact the course will be longer as we all know shorthaul know nothing about international flying or big jets
There will be no short course for NG to 787. In fact the course will be longer as we all know shorthaul know nothing about international flying or big jets
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Apparently PP wasn't a fan of the short course idea, and was subsequently shown the door!
Qantas definitely getting 789's and also more 78?'s for Jetstar to be announced!
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May help JQ stop the bleeding on HNL. The loads for JQ on that route on the days qantas operates are appalling. On the days QF operate they generally have 15-25 empty seats. JQ on those days often has 100+.
GG, I'm only passing on what I heard (directly, not hearsay) from Gareth Evans and he is high enough to know what the fleet plans are for the entire group. He also said that the LCC model only works up to a certain range and although he didn't say what that range is, I got the strong impression that it's shorter than SYD-HNL.
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I think it was in the LH EA FAQ's where it was stated that JQ won't be getting any more 787's.
That must be tempered with the fact that it was in a document supposed to sell the EA, but that is what it said.
I heard a rumour just yesterday that all the 787's were going to come to QF, including the JQ ones. I don't believe it for a second, but it to is a rumour, and if Goblin's could be true, I guess this one could be also.
That must be tempered with the fact that it was in a document supposed to sell the EA, but that is what it said.
I heard a rumour just yesterday that all the 787's were going to come to QF, including the JQ ones. I don't believe it for a second, but it to is a rumour, and if Goblin's could be true, I guess this one could be also.
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Keg,
A little cheeky (and out of character from what I've seen of your posts in the past) to just post simplistic figures.
Looking at the QF website, it shows that all 4 weekly QF-operated flights to/from HNL are operated by A332s. The same website states that the configuration of these aircraft is 235 seats.
It goes on to say that JQ operate 5 weekly services to HNL from three cities. The 332s are configured in 303 seats, the B788s are about 330 seats.
Blow me down if the resultant isn't the same average load (as stated by you) or - heaven forbid - 20 or 30 more bums on seats (depending on which aircraft type is operating on the day).
A little cheeky (and out of character from what I've seen of your posts in the past) to just post simplistic figures.
Looking at the QF website, it shows that all 4 weekly QF-operated flights to/from HNL are operated by A332s. The same website states that the configuration of these aircraft is 235 seats.
It goes on to say that JQ operate 5 weekly services to HNL from three cities. The 332s are configured in 303 seats, the B788s are about 330 seats.
Blow me down if the resultant isn't the same average load (as stated by you) or - heaven forbid - 20 or 30 more bums on seats (depending on which aircraft type is operating on the day).
Airbus always insisted that the A380 would climb to F350 at max weight and cruise at M0.85 - yes, it can do that, but not in an operational sense so it's desirable to know what the true capabilities of the A350 are.