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Old 9th May 2015, 22:45
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How much is a VA or JQ second officer on? I'm hearing the new SO rate isn't very impressive.
The number I've heard thrown around for a QF new hire 787/A350 S/O is still higher than what a friend at VOZ is on after a few years. I don't know what the JQ S/O number is.
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Old 10th May 2015, 04:24
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JQ SO base mid 70's
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Old 10th May 2015, 06:42
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I doubt it will be less than 50% more than the JQ SO rate.
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Old 10th May 2015, 07:23
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Old 12th May 2015, 07:46
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Today's very warmly received Investor Briefing didn't even contain the slighest inkling of 787 orders 😳
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Old 12th May 2015, 08:29
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From the investor briefing,

"Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said the airline was positioned to outperform in the international market through its Jetstar network."

?? Everyone keeps talking about Jetstar product not working in the international arena ??
 
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Outperform what? Their budgeted loss?

A new type is coming for mainline. That's what this whole EA is about. For those of us left with the hope of some kind of a career in this airline, we should pray that people who want to feather their own nests for the last few years of their careers don't stuff it for everyone

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Old 12th May 2015, 09:44
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Transferring to PPRuNe the reference to this individual is weak or politically motivated? Have the discussion with him 'man to man'. He has left his contact number after all. We all have valuable input.

You are suggesting his attitude and others like it will 'stuff it'. I'm not willing to call it that way yet... But he has given me things to think about.

More than one of these such individuals you speak of has suggested the potential problems created through redeployment during its introduction. A large RIN which may result in significant salary reductions for affected crews. This of course is not a concern for those in short haul but appropriate redeployment clauses I suspect could feature in a successful new EBA.

But I believe, as another Qrewroom poster wrote, it's best to just relax and wait to debate the known rather than the unknown.

Cheers

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Old 12th May 2015, 11:45
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Point taken, reference removed

My point was that there are many who couldn't give a toss about whether we get them or not. They just want to ensure that if a new toy arrives, they can have a play without losing any cash, and if the new toy goes elsewhere, who cares, they'll just see out their careers on whatever type they're on. Any reference to a 'win/win' is simply a reference to making sure if the 747 or 380'disappear and they are RIN'd, they don't lose any cash'.
That is the attitude that has been portrayed. Before any deal has been reached. if anyone thinks these senior blokes care about your careers, you're kidding yourself. They want nothing more than to ensure they roll into the sunset on their current conditions, regardless of the implications for the rest of us.
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Old 12th May 2015, 22:20
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Goodonyamate, as a senior person in the organization, I have canvassed the views and feelings of my peers and have come to the general feeling the the overwhelming majority do care about the careers of their fellow crew members and the health and prosperity of QAL. Not just themselves. Your last post is far from the truth and I find your last 2 sentences extremely offensive and untrue. If that is how you really think and feel, then perhaps it is not myself and my peers that need to adjust our thinking, but you yourself. Maybe you need to do some soul searching and adjust your thing so that it is in tune with reality.
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Old 13th May 2015, 00:51
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Is there actually any announcement due in the near future re fleet plans. The only thing I have seen of late is that one of the 747s going to the desert is now up for a D Check.
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Old 14th May 2015, 01:37
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Post Definitive LWOP question resolved

It's official....

Only A330 Capt, A380 FO/SO have the opportunity to apply for LWOP.

Things are looking up
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Old 14th May 2015, 02:31
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Do I get a point for being half right?
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Old 14th May 2015, 03:15
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Does it say anything about people on LWOP wishing to extend?
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Old 14th May 2015, 05:38
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Yes it says " all those currently on LWOP are to re-familiarise themselves with the concept of SOP's, return your motorbike to Mr Pham or Mr Patel, reduce drinking habits to align closely with Australian accepted social mores, and mentally prepare to pay $12 AUD for seven minutes parking."
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Old 14th May 2015, 07:05
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Yes it says " all those currently on LWOP are to re-familiarise themselves with the concept of SOP's, return your motorbike to Mr Pham or Mr Patel, reduce drinking habits to align closely with Australian accepted social mores, and mentally prepare to pay $12 AUD for seven minutes parking."
Yep, madness to not have reupped your LWOP, if it was wanted, over the last year or so. I know of a few that locked in a fair bit to meet their needs. Smart move it seems.
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Old 14th May 2015, 07:19
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SOP's? Sounds kind of restrictive..
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Old 14th May 2015, 08:19
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hotnhigh, if you want to mark your own exam you can get 1/2 a point...

Fact is it still a case by case basis. Some pilots with positions from b737 still getting extensions, A380 crew till May 2018!

Looks like LWOP will still be given as it's always been. Some fleets can, others cannot. Very different to "ALL future...denied". The Horse was right

Still good news if holding more pilots closer to home for revamp.


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Old 14th May 2015, 13:48
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Am I the only person who thinks someone in Flight Ops pumped out this Memo in a hurry after reading the speculation on PPRuNe?

Or just a coincidence?
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Old 14th May 2015, 21:41
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Rumours are swirling round the place, most being fictitious, just like the investor briefing released to the ASX.
Somebody is telling furfies about fleet utilisation in mainline. There is no way the 737 fleet is averaging or will average 12.6 hours per day. Page 125. At the moment it's flat out doing 6 hours per day. If this is the case and this projected increase is correct then I can't see the current staffing levels being anywhere near what they will be required to be. I call it as B.S.
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