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Old 1st May 2015, 02:31
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Second hand?

Looks like some 777s and 'maybe' some A380s becoming available from Malaysia. Would not be the first time QF sourced from there!
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Old 1st May 2015, 03:12
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Why would they?
Didn't they learn their lesson last time?
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Old 1st May 2015, 03:31
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QF wont be getting anything unless the LH EBA gets up.

If it doesn't they will go to a new greenfields operation which will be QF but not the pilots.
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Old 1st May 2015, 03:43
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something out of left field ...


EK was talking about a 1000 seat all Y class A380 a while ago.


Wouldn't something similar suit JQ down to the ground for use on busy routes?


What range would an A380 have with 1000 pax ?
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Old 1st May 2015, 04:12
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Cool

'bout 300 nm with VFR reserves !
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Old 1st May 2015, 05:16
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What 'busy routes' does the QF group currently operate that could justify a half billion dollar investment for low cost airfares in return?
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Old 1st May 2015, 05:39
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SYD/LAX or SFO or YVR or cheaper airports like ONT maybe via AKL.


Lot of cheap kiwis out there. At present NZ has AKL/LAX, AKL/SFO & AKL/YVR all to themselves.


They might have to restrict baggage to 15kgs each & charge heaps for over that.
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Old 1st May 2015, 09:22
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Against my better judgement ....

What range would an A380 have with 1000 pax ?
Unable to push back due loadsheet limitations.

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Old 1st May 2015, 23:11
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EK must have done the numbers. Presume they would use a 1000 seat aircraft on routes where 1000's of foreign workers fly on cheapest fares possible, from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. not quite the same as kiwis, but similar.
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Old 1st May 2015, 23:27
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Qantas Fleet Order Speculation

"Wouldn't something similar suit JQ down to the ground for use on busy routes?"


Jq can rarely fill a 330!
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Old 2nd May 2015, 02:30
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thing of the economies of scale with 1000 seats ?




Most Chinese are small in stature. There are billions of them, hundreds of millions in the emerging middle class & we need their money really REALLY badly to pay off massive govts debt.


Only catch is where would they stay in OZ?


Probably not enough beds.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 06:06
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There are some triples and dugongs for sale in the neighbourhood.

Maybe qantas could start to fix a glaring error from the past.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 07:34
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Clapped out 15 year old 777's are the last thing QF needs.

The cabin refurb alone to bring the product up the required standard would be excessive and make the acquisition not cost effective.

The 380's might be better value depending on the price and who is the actual owner at the moment, but even then again the internal reconfiguration would be hugely expensive.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 11:28
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1000's of foreign workers fly on cheapest fares possible, from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. not quite the same as kiwis, but similar.
You embarrass me quite often 320.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 12:05
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The current A380-800 is approved for a maximum 538 pax on the main deck and 315 maximum on the upper deck making a grand total of 853 pax.

With a pax mix of males, females, children, infants, baggage and catering a 853 pax load may be a problem due to the ZFW limitation.

A 853 pax load may be available with a stripped down aircraft and little in the way of pax amenities.

Perhaps Keg could advise what average payload is available on the QF fleet as a rough guide.

An A380-900 or A380-1000 are just for virtual airline dreamers !.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 13:10
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"An A380-900 or A380-1000 are just for virtual airline dreamers !."


Just like QF management and BNEA320
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Old 2nd May 2015, 13:55
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Be interesting if Delta get their 618T versions and start a Atlanta-Sydney service!
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Old 2nd May 2015, 15:39
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Qantas will not be getting any more A380's (no matter how cheap they are). The future is point to point flying using fuel efficient twins like B787-9, B787-10, B777-8X, B777-9X and, to keep the Airbus enthusiasts happy, I'll throw in the A350-900 & A350-1000, but I don't think there's any chance that they would be selected.
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Old 2nd May 2015, 22:44
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Perhaps Keg could advise what average payload is available on the QF fleet as a rough guide.
I wish I could but I'm still too new to the fleet. Anything much beyond 'ECAM actions' is still a bit of a stretch!
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Old 3rd May 2015, 02:02
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Perhaps Keg could advise what average payload is available on the QF fleet as a rough guide.
The difference (on Qantas 380's) between Empty Wt and MZFW is 80-82T.

At MZFW you can stick another 205T of fuel on.
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