Gold Coast ILS
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The A320 isn't as capable as a 737 Ng. Correct me if I'm wrong. We have minima for 3 different RNPs in QF. They are .1,.2and .3. Often you can see an ANP of 0.02. That's a statistical containment of 95% accuracy within 0.02 of a nm.
The A320 isn't as capable as a 737 Ng. Correct me if I'm wrong. We have minima for 3 different RNPs in QF. They are .1,.2and .3. Often you can see an ANP of 0.02. That's a statistical containment of 95% accuracy within 0.02 of a nm.
The use of tailored RNP charts was an expensive proposition - millions per year in licensing fees. Not sure these days but last time I looked it was difficult, if not impossible to justify on the basis of the savings you would make by avoiding diversions. It might be all different with Naverus being taken over by GE, I don't know.
The charts had a significant fee for access each month and given the significant training impost I couldn't see the value in it. Still don't quite frankly.In Queenstown definitely, but not too many other places...
Yes it is great having the capability but do you really get value for your money in an environment where every capability had to fight for funding? I suspect not but I think it got to the point where in order to "keep up with the jones" (or perhaps keeping up with Alex😄
it needed to be done.
The charts had a significant fee for access each month and given the significant training impost I couldn't see the value in it. Still don't quite frankly.In Queenstown definitely, but not too many other places...
Yes it is great having the capability but do you really get value for your money in an environment where every capability had to fight for funding? I suspect not but I think it got to the point where in order to "keep up with the jones" (or perhaps keeping up with Alex😄
it needed to be done.
As I recall one of the perceived advantages of RNP was with departures.
Much higher payloads out of places like CS due to engine failure/terrain avoidance.
Coin counters in QF thought the shorter tracks on some STARS into BN would save track miles and $ but it makes little difference if everyone is holding.
Much higher payloads out of places like CS due to engine failure/terrain avoidance.
Coin counters in QF thought the shorter tracks on some STARS into BN would save track miles and $ but it makes little difference if everyone is holding.
The RNP departure ex cairns, if I remember correctly, went straight ahead up the valley - it is some time ago and my memory is getting dodgier by the day.
If I recall the RNP departures stopped not all that long after they started due to the noise abatement issues.
But as I say my memory is hazy to say the best
If I recall the RNP departures stopped not all that long after they started due to the noise abatement issues.
But as I say my memory is hazy to say the best
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Cairns 15 departure
Non-pilot but worked in and around CNS for many years.
QF trialled the RNP departures I believe? I recall they banked a little left then seemed to follow Trinity Inlet and up the valley.
From memories, it seemed quite a bit quieter near the city as opposed to the current 120 degree turn.
Recal also people complaining over the 'increased' noise from the new departure.
Yet approaches from the south fly right over the city. Confusing.
QF trialled the RNP departures I believe? I recall they banked a little left then seemed to follow Trinity Inlet and up the valley.
From memories, it seemed quite a bit quieter near the city as opposed to the current 120 degree turn.
Recal also people complaining over the 'increased' noise from the new departure.
Yet approaches from the south fly right over the city. Confusing.
Yet approaches from the south fly right over the city. Confusing.
QF trialled the RNP departures I believe? I recall they banked a little left then seemed to follow Trinity Inlet and up the valley.
From memories, it seemed quite a bit quieter near the city as opposed to the current 120 degree turn.
Recal also people complaining over the 'increased' noise from the new departure.
Yet approaches from the south fly right over the city. Confusing.
From memories, it seemed quite a bit quieter near the city as opposed to the current 120 degree turn.
Recal also people complaining over the 'increased' noise from the new departure.
Yet approaches from the south fly right over the city. Confusing.
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So here we are at the end of 2018...and the below Notam is current..NEW ILS (LOCALISER, GLIDE PATH AND DME) UNDER TEST. NIL IDENT
RADIATING INTERMITTENTLY ON TEST
DO NOT USE FALSE INDICATIONS POSSIBLE
LLZ FREQ 111.1MHZ
GP FREQ 331.7 MHZ
DME RECEIVER FREQ 1072 MHZ
DME TRANSMITTER FREQ 1009 MHZ
FROM 09 202230 TO 11 300600
So....where is the midddle marker located for this installation?
RADIATING INTERMITTENTLY ON TEST
DO NOT USE FALSE INDICATIONS POSSIBLE
LLZ FREQ 111.1MHZ
GP FREQ 331.7 MHZ
DME RECEIVER FREQ 1072 MHZ
DME TRANSMITTER FREQ 1009 MHZ
FROM 09 202230 TO 11 300600
So....where is the midddle marker located for this installation?
As for the middle marker it will probably be a DME fix off the ILS DME, same as 16L in Sydney.
Anyway we are finally moving into the 20th century so hopefully this will ease the pain at OOL for everyone.