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Qantas and the 787-900

Old 27th Jan 2015, 19:52
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Qantas and the 787-900

New grist for the mill. In news just in, Qantas have finally admitted / committed to the orders for the 787-900. For those who watch such things, it was never in doubt as they effectively stole them from Boeing. I mean, it would have been a crime to let the orders go.

Actually, there would be serious grounds to punish the executive team for dereliction of fiduciary duty if the options were let go. But alas, the little Irishman and his team will escape the gaoler in the nick of time. Q1 FY2016 in the parlance of the shinybums, or July this year for mere mortals, is the signing ceremony. Hugs and handshakes all around for the ‘leadership’ team as they tell anyone who’ll listen that they have performed an amazing acrobatic trick and turned international around. With such mastery of the aerial arts, they should be in a circus.

Anyhow, now the spectacle begins. Who is going to fly the 787 and on what contract? Jetstar have set the bar (well more of a tripping hazard) and now AIPA are in deep negotiations to “secure our future.”

One wonders what leverage they have to consummate the marriage. Long haul award and 787, a match made in heaven.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:03
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What's to say an in principle deal hasn't already been done.

Qantas aren't prepared to announce a new type without knowing who was flying the aircraft & at what rate.

From what I've heard the Long Haul award wasn't the sticking point, just some of the ad ons.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:14
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In news just in, Qantas have finally admitted / committed to the orders for the 787-900.
Hey, Tony the tiler, from where are you getting this info or is it PPRuNe at its best?
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:34
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Well, the peeps around Jetstar head office have been saying for about 2 years that when the 787-900 comes then Jetstar will be swapping out a few of the 787-800's for the 900's to enable more long routes. So I expect that the first few will go to Jetstar.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:45
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Well, the "peeps" around Jetstar head office have all just been sacked or left. Might need to check with the new "peeps".
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 20:56
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We'll see.
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Old 27th Jan 2015, 22:19
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So what is a 787-900?

I can only find the 787-9...
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 01:27
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Boeing is buying some of the recently retired QF B767's.

Maybe this is sweetening the deal for an upcoming Boeing announcement.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 02:17
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Got a link showing that ghyde?
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 02:32
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Well, the peeps around Jetstar head office have been saying for about 2 years that when the 787-900 comes then Jetstar will be swapping out a few of the 787-800's for the 900's to enable more long routes. So I expect that the first few will go to Jetstar.
That was the original plan from back in 2008 or so. By my reckoning there's been at least 312+ new plans since then!

Dr Dolittle. Yes, until he was announced as the new CEO for QF international. Then it all made sense.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 02:35
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The man from #42 is CFO of Qantas International, wouldn't he being signing the cheques for 787s?
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 04:06
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OGJ was purchased by Boeing on 23/01/2015 and the registration has changed to N324BC
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 04:36
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Qantas Engineering at its Best

http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation/qantas-poised-to-record-1-billion-profit-ubs-20150128-12zr24.html"]http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviation/qantas-poised-to-record-1-billion-profit-ubs-20150128-12zr24.html]Qantas poised to record $1 billion profit: UBS

Who said Qantas Engineering was dead?

The only problem is that the best Engineers work on the board, and not in the hangar.

What a remarkable turnaround
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 04:41
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This link works better:

Qantas poised to record $1 billion profit: UBS
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 05:42
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You'd have to wonder how large the profit could be if QF hadn't sunk large volumes of cash into -

Various Jetstar entities
Red Q
Locking out employees/customers
Buying then parking A320's for months on end then on selling those airframes to Chinese carriers at discounted prices
etc etc over a period of years

And instead, invested those large sums of money into modern fuel efficient fleet renewal for the mothership.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 06:11
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Very true but unfortunately -438 we are not the smartest men in the room. If only they read this. However I'm sure they know.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 06:20
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Regarding the 767's registered to Boeing; if I recall correctly the 76's that Qantas sold to West Jet in Canada were being sold through Boeing so that may account for the rego change. Can't be sure though.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 14:00
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If theses 787-9 orders for QANTAS are confirmed the question is-

'Has Jetstar International lost its backing from the board?'

The plan for years was 1x787-9 goes to JQ, 1 used 787-8 goes to mainline.

Last year a few 787-8 ordered were cancelled for JQInt and no talk about when 787-9 coming to replace their current aircraft. Only talk about, if QF Int returns to profit new orders will be looked at.

I guess if the same rule was applied to JQ Int it could have been applied last year? Just not announced to the public like every QF profit target

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Old 28th Jan 2015, 16:49
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I think you will find the 3 jetstar 787 deferred not cancelled.
Just because Qantas orders them doesn't mean the are all going to have a red tail.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 20:46
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Qantas doesn't need 787's (330 size). It needs a 747 replacement.
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