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[DeafStar]

3wheeler,

Explain why am an idiot? Or do you have your head so far stuck up your butt that facts are unable to penetrate?

[Di_Vosh]

Pretty detailed info from todays meeting with the SSA guys on the Feds website.

DIVOSH!

[PPRuNeUser0161]

Yes very enlightening. This could create quite a mess if redundancy, compulsory relocation and demotion are directed in reverse seniority across the fleet and not just limited to the 300 fleet. I suppose the EBA doesn't stipulate anything about different fleets or bases in the seniority clause and does include reduction of establishment.

SN

[atlas12]

What is the deal if you are interested in lwop to fly elsewhere within the QF group for a few years but no one is hiring??? Bid for lwop on the condition you get an interview first?

[roger_ramjet]

I think you've answered your own question there - if no one is hiring then...

[NowThatsFunny]

ThreeWheeler,
Get off your ass, update your email address with AFAP (so you actually get updates from the union), and if you don't get the information you want (which Di Vosh has pointed out maybe you don't even know what you want from the union) then get off your ass and do something about it. By your actions you are lazy as F.ck or Gen Y. Either way, grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your career.

NowThatsFunny

[DeafStar]

At least strict seniority will determine who stays where. It's good to know at senior FOs on the dead fleet will get to stay where they want if a more junior FO is on the Q400. Not everyone will be happy of course but seniority is protected.

[atlas12]

In response to my own question, LWOP is an EOI *only* and isn't binding but will give you the option to move on it down the track should you wish to do so.

[Boney]

Deafstar

Not really!

Changes/Pineapple affect 300 crew only - but bids are open to everyone.

This means, at least 5 400 FO's get promoted to left hand seat. At the same time, at least 10 Captains on the 300 move back to 400 FO.

Gees, the sick leave entitlements of those 10 former Captains in 2015 is gonna cop an absolute flogging?

[atlas12]

Hi Boney,

Not sure what the situ is down in SYD, but in BNE a lot of senior 300 captains/training captains are bidding over to the 400. I'd be surprised if any Q400 FO's get a look in for 400 commands Not a lot of morale around the crew room these days now that time to command just went up by another year or two.....

[Going Nowhere]

The vacancy notice states there is 0 vacancies on the 400 in BNE with the only ones coming up depending on how the EOI pans out.

Not sure how you can bid for a slot that doesn't exist, you've never been able to before.

[DeafStar]

Changes not limited to Q300 crew. For example some junior Q400 FO's will be forced to move out of Cairns for example. Depends on bids to Adelaide.

[Fuel-Off]

Not sure how you can bid for a slot that doesn't exist, you've never been able to before.

Unless you're best mates with the CP, then you can do whatever the hell you want!

EBA clauses be damned!

Fuel-Off

[atlas12]

EOI is as good as a bid isn't it otherwise why bother filling it out

[Fonz121]

Changes not limited to Q300 crew. For example some junior Q400 FO's will be forced to move out of Cairns for example. Depends on bids to Adelaide.

Where is this info coming from Deafstar?

[DeafStar]

From reading the correspondence on the AFAP website in the Sunstate section.

[DeafStar]

They can if a senior Q300 FO wants to stay in his/her base.

[Fonz121]

Really? Am I interpreting it wrong (genuine question)? That's not now I'm reading it.

[muffman]

The only thing you can bid for is a vacancy. Surely given that the junior BNE 400 FO's positions are not vacant, nobody else can bid into them and force them out of town.

[Boney]

Deaf Star - I could be wrong but I didn't read it that way either.

The way I understand it is even if you are a very junior 400 FO in CS/BN, you are safe?

If you a senior 300 Captain, you may still end up a 400 FO?