JETGO Cancel Sydney - Roma - Sydney
I wonder how they'll meet these conditions:
To be a U.S. certificate holder -- Part 135 or 121 -- the operator needs to be:
a) President a U.S. citizen
b) actually under control of American citizens
c) 75% of voting stock owned by American entities at least 51% controlled by American citizens
d) foreigner can hold up to 49% of stock, if 25% is non-voting
e) regulations are silent on debt and lessor, but if commonly acknowledged that company is being manipulated by JetGo Australia, it will be found to be in violation of law, and they can ask Sir Richard Branson for advice on how to get out of that pickle, as USDOT made Virgin American remove its US citizen president because he was recruited and taking orders from Sir Richard, and not acting independently enough in their view.
To be a U.S. certificate holder -- Part 135 or 121 -- the operator needs to be:
a) President a U.S. citizen
b) actually under control of American citizens
c) 75% of voting stock owned by American entities at least 51% controlled by American citizens
d) foreigner can hold up to 49% of stock, if 25% is non-voting
e) regulations are silent on debt and lessor, but if commonly acknowledged that company is being manipulated by JetGo Australia, it will be found to be in violation of law, and they can ask Sir Richard Branson for advice on how to get out of that pickle, as USDOT made Virgin American remove its US citizen president because he was recruited and taking orders from Sir Richard, and not acting independently enough in their view.
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Why would you launch two airlines at the same time in two very distant parts of the world? How does this boost the prospects of success in Australia particularly as US operators are parking these machines?
With so many new announcements altering the plans & course of this business, it wouldn't come as a surprise if customers, suppliers and prospective staff start to question its viability and in turn whether to pay, supply or join this operation.
If it does go pear shaped they had better pay back every cent to anyone who's owed money and it will not have failed from a lack of opportunities.
With so many new announcements altering the plans & course of this business, it wouldn't come as a surprise if customers, suppliers and prospective staff start to question its viability and in turn whether to pay, supply or join this operation.
If it does go pear shaped they had better pay back every cent to anyone who's owed money and it will not have failed from a lack of opportunities.
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JETGO USA
I have heard they are just about to get their FAA 135 certificate and in the short term are operating through FUGA, they have picked up a few contracts with the Casinos. Work in Australia is on the decline. Saw their aircraft the other day and its nicely done with GOGO wifi and 30 business class seats in it. Also heard they are cross training crew to be able to fly in both companies.. Certainly different
www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/33093-jetgo-australias-new-us-venture-jetgo-america-gets-first-e135"
I have heard they are just about to get their FAA 135 certificate and in the short term are operating through FUGA, they have picked up a few contracts with the Casinos. Work in Australia is on the decline. Saw their aircraft the other day and its nicely done with GOGO wifi and 30 business class seats in it. Also heard they are cross training crew to be able to fly in both companies.. Certainly different
www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/33093-jetgo-australias-new-us-venture-jetgo-america-gets-first-e135"
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No disrespect to the guys but one has to wonder about stability and whats really going on.........................
1) First saying they'll never go RPT and stick to what they do best
2) Embraer 145 (arriving in May? Now November)
3) 3 x Embraer 140's (Any arrived yet? Due in August)
4) Announcing RPT & routes
5) Cancelling certain RPT sectors within weeks of proving flights and first flight
6) New offshore set up
Good luck to them though, a unique product! And great aircraft to fly
1) First saying they'll never go RPT and stick to what they do best
2) Embraer 145 (arriving in May? Now November)
3) 3 x Embraer 140's (Any arrived yet? Due in August)
4) Announcing RPT & routes
5) Cancelling certain RPT sectors within weeks of proving flights and first flight
6) New offshore set up
Good luck to them though, a unique product! And great aircraft to fly
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perhaps they should do similar to www.ultimateairshuttle.com
They do fixed priced sectors from smaller airports using Dornier 328 jets which are 30 something seats.
No hassles.
Free car parking right at terminal. No security, so queues for anything. Very few congestion delays if anything.
They do fixed priced sectors from smaller airports using Dornier 328 jets which are 30 something seats.
No hassles.
Free car parking right at terminal. No security, so queues for anything. Very few congestion delays if anything.
I see no different from Jetgo to VA/Tiger/JQ with the amount of deferred aircraft etc(every airline is doing it), and if they can make money somewhere else while things are slow good on them, especially if it means people can keep their jobs(regardless of were that base is). And our majors are supposed to be run by professionals as well.
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No, you don't owe any justification to pprune readers, so why bother with that bs response.
"whereas even our sim is in the US, our HOTAC is American, the shareholders are US citizens is a no brainer.."
Why did you start up here then?
"whereas even our sim is in the US, our HOTAC is American, the shareholders are US citizens is a no brainer.."
Why did you start up here then?
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'whereas even our sim is in the US, our HOTAC is American, the shareholders are US citizens is a no brainer..'
Sounds great if they want to start a US airline. But wait a minute, aren't they starting an Australian airline? So now it appears the time, resources and energy needed to successfully launch the AUSTRALIAN RPT service has been diluted to prepare for the newly announced scheme to launch another service in the US.
What nonsense.
As for Jetgo justifying every move on this forum - DON"T! Get off this forum, get back to work and follow through on the commitments you've announced. No one here will make you any money or build you a loyal customer base. You won't either if you keep trashing your brand by failing to deliver.
People buy why you do what you do, not what you do. Why does Jetgo do what it does? Seems to be to pop up/ close down when there appears to be relatively quick easy money to be made.
No one buys that!
Sounds great if they want to start a US airline. But wait a minute, aren't they starting an Australian airline? So now it appears the time, resources and energy needed to successfully launch the AUSTRALIAN RPT service has been diluted to prepare for the newly announced scheme to launch another service in the US.
What nonsense.
As for Jetgo justifying every move on this forum - DON"T! Get off this forum, get back to work and follow through on the commitments you've announced. No one here will make you any money or build you a loyal customer base. You won't either if you keep trashing your brand by failing to deliver.
People buy why you do what you do, not what you do. Why does Jetgo do what it does? Seems to be to pop up/ close down when there appears to be relatively quick easy money to be made.
No one buys that!
Some unbelievably stupid comments STILL going on in this thread. The usual crop of poppy-cutters and Administrative Marvels still sniping away, as if they had some superior knowledge of another company's actions.
ANCPER want to know why Jetgo didn't buy their own simulator. DUH! Sims are seriously expensive, and how much more will it cost to run one under CASA's dopey new rules which won't even allow ANY new ATPL tests because nobody is qualified to conduct them under the new rules.
I worked for a man who had cubic dollars and could afford to buy a thousand sims for his helicopters and jet, but economically it made far more sense to send me business class around the world via Miami to do the annual sim training. That is where the sim is, that is where the qualified people are, that is where the answer is.
Why did they set up here? Ask yourself the same question - why are YOU still here?
ANCPER want to know why Jetgo didn't buy their own simulator. DUH! Sims are seriously expensive, and how much more will it cost to run one under CASA's dopey new rules which won't even allow ANY new ATPL tests because nobody is qualified to conduct them under the new rules.
I worked for a man who had cubic dollars and could afford to buy a thousand sims for his helicopters and jet, but economically it made far more sense to send me business class around the world via Miami to do the annual sim training. That is where the sim is, that is where the qualified people are, that is where the answer is.
Why did they set up here? Ask yourself the same question - why are YOU still here?
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For that, read they are cash flow critical and need a public subscription to try and stay afloat.
Credit only lasts so long before the administrators move in.
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Dale Hardale
Ultimately, Tiger will be the nail in the coffin for VB.
Apart from any cash issues, the VB model is dead and buried once Tiger gets a "paw" hold on the domestic Australian network.
It will be back to the good old days of 2 airlines - JQ (QF) and TT(SQ).
Apart from any cash issues, the VB model is dead and buried once Tiger gets a "paw" hold on the domestic Australian network.
It will be back to the good old days of 2 airlines - JQ (QF) and TT(SQ).
Hows EK's finances going? or aren't you allowed into the finance department at Dubai ?
Leave JG alone they just hired a few people from Sktrans... Even if they dont make it in this F*** industry they are at least keeping people in jobs homes / families intact in the meantime... FFS what is wrong with people here
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DH's comment re VB and TT was probably reasonable at the time it was made. The goal posts have changed since then.
Anyone who goes to the market for so called "expansion", is I would have thought, looking for cash. Desperation ?
Let's wait and see what happens.
Anyone who goes to the market for so called "expansion", is I would have thought, looking for cash. Desperation ?
Let's wait and see what happens.
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DH was fundamentally correct in that there are essentially two camps. Just got the combinations wrong.
QF/JQ and VA/TT
The reality is that JetGo doesn't make any sense and never has just like SkyAirWorld didn't in the not too distant past and we know the history of that little cherry.
Hopefully I will be proved wrong on this one.
QF/JQ and VA/TT
The reality is that JetGo doesn't make any sense and never has just like SkyAirWorld didn't in the not too distant past and we know the history of that little cherry.
Hopefully I will be proved wrong on this one.
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Ascend Charlie,
You should rename yourself "Right Charlie". If you had any comprehension you wouldn't be drawing the wrong conclusions. I wasn't asking why they didn't have a sim here, it was in response to Jetgo Management's post which has since been removed.
Quote 'whereas even our sim is in the US, our HOTAC is American, the shareholders are US citizens is a no brainer..'
If alarm bells aren't ringing over Roma get a new clock. A number of posters pointed out that it would be a difficult road and that looks likely, unfortunate as that is for the employees and investors. If you have a stick your head in the sand attitude that's your choice and if you don't like it that ppruners comment on a start-up like JG, bad luck as this is what the site is for, rumours and comment.
Again, I hope Roma is a non-event and that JG continue etc, but unfortunately it looks a little dark.
You should rename yourself "Right Charlie". If you had any comprehension you wouldn't be drawing the wrong conclusions. I wasn't asking why they didn't have a sim here, it was in response to Jetgo Management's post which has since been removed.
Quote 'whereas even our sim is in the US, our HOTAC is American, the shareholders are US citizens is a no brainer..'
If alarm bells aren't ringing over Roma get a new clock. A number of posters pointed out that it would be a difficult road and that looks likely, unfortunate as that is for the employees and investors. If you have a stick your head in the sand attitude that's your choice and if you don't like it that ppruners comment on a start-up like JG, bad luck as this is what the site is for, rumours and comment.
Again, I hope Roma is a non-event and that JG continue etc, but unfortunately it looks a little dark.
If you have a stick your head in the sand attitude that's your choice
All these self-proclaimed experts who can forecast what JetGo can or cannot achieve, have NFI what is really going on, with this particular company or business in general.
Leave your d1cks alone, sit back, and enjoy the show.
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Ascend Charlie,
I'm sure you have a far better idea than me what an arse will hold. I think you should take your own advice.
Rightly or wrongly history is on the side of the knockers, very few make it out of the gate.
I'm sure you have a far better idea than me what an arse will hold. I think you should take your own advice.
Rightly or wrongly history is on the side of the knockers, very few make it out of the gate.
