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Old 15th Sep 2017, 11:57
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More trouble for the pilots.

I am receiving reports that Poxie have not paid any money to AON (the expats salary sacrifice "super" fund) since May.

Running short of cash?
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Old 15th Sep 2017, 22:59
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Super is not paid to expats so the guys make use of the salary sacrifice rules to get a least a little relief from the high PNG rates.

As most guys there salary sacrifice 15% of salary PX has held back a sizable chunk of money out of the guys salaries.

There is just no holding that company (OR Country) to accountability...
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 01:04
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It is also interesting to note that there has been no funds deposited into the Nationals superannuation fund since May.

The Superannuation (General Provisions) Act 2000 (https://www.lexadin.nl/wlg/legis/nof...s_act_2000.pdf) , sections 78 & 79 make interesting reading.

78. DUTY TO REMIT CONTRIBUTIONS PROMPTLY.

(1) An employer shall remit its employer contributions to the ASF within 14 days of the end of each calendar month.

(2) Where an employer deducts employee contributions from pay, the employer shall remit those contributions to the ASF within 14 days of the date of deduction.

(3) An entity,who fails to comply with this section, is guilty of an offence.

79. POWER TO RECOVER INTEREST ON DEFAULT.

Where an employer defaults in making any contributions required under this Part, the licensed trustee of the relevant ASF may, by written notice, require the employer to make payment of the outstanding contributions together with penal interest at the prescribed rate set out in the regulations from the date on which payment was due until the date of actual payment.


So Poxie is above the law??
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 08:44
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Bet if they had not paid the fuel bill in almost 4 months there would be hell to pay....like cut off. Shouldnt be any difference in paying the salary bill.

The outright arrogance of not paying those guys is just outstanding.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 22:17
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Not paying in that neck of the woods is just a way of life. Isn't it?
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 08:40
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Do the investors know of the industrial turmoil...
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 10:57
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packapoo....

When I was there ANG ALWAYS paid salary on time, on the dot, (Yeah, allowances took time but that was due to quaint 1970's colonialism practices that the office staff operated under) ...and all was paid in Australian Dollars, not Kina - USD would have been better though.

That all changed in 2015, which is the reason almost 80 expats left.

All ANG pilots are now paid in Kina - stable currency that one, not!!!!!.

Interstingly that the other Airline in PNG has massive debts..... I always thought it was fiscally run better than ANG.

But who would ever know, ANG never seems to publishes financials.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 13:33
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It is obvious they are above the law, simply flaunt it or have it manipulated and twisted by the one and only shareholder the Independent State of Papua New Guinea.The current industrial court case is a fine example.
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Old 17th Sep 2017, 22:13
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I think you've nailed it TBL....

And getting spived by the country was a way of life all through my time up there so only positive is things are at least constant
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It has also been bought to my attention that apart from not paying into AON the pilots are being further disadvantaged financially by the dropping in the exchange rate between the PNGK and the AUS$

It currently stands at 0.388

And Poxie in it's wisdom varied clause 42 of the 2015 contract without consultation and introduced this (my bold):

(AIR means Average Indicative Rate as at 30th June of the current i.e.
calculated from 1st July of the previous year to 30th June of current year.)

Clause 42 of this Contract is hereby invoked to insert to sub-clause
in Appendix B item 6 of the same Contract to read as follow:

6. Annual reviews will be conducted each year determining the AIR for
the prevailing year. Changes in remuneration will only apply should the
AIR move between 0.4000 and 0.3800. Where changes are applicable
they will be effected on the 1st July every year for the duration of the
contract. This is in line with Company Policy for Employment Contracts
that are based on Australian Dollar


So effectively as the Kina declines nothing will be done until July 2018

So if the spiral continues to say 0.30 they will be working for next to nothing!
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.....and can't help but piss myself when folk are shocked when they get spived by the company and the country...

TBL Warrior, good to see you can get enjoyment out of reading about misfortunes of those working at PX.

It is not about complaining (no point in that..I'm no longer there), it is about letting others who might see PX as being an option for employment what they will be in for if they take the step.

And as stated...PX was not always like it is now...the years under the preceeding CEO were very good, the guys were happy and resignations were minimal.

Anyway, enjoy the read....just you dont "piss" yourself literaly, its not a good look.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 00:19
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Originally Posted by olderairhead
So if the spiral continues to say 0.30 they will be working for next to nothing!
Unfortunately, many of them already are.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 00:38
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Originally Posted by balusnomore
.....and can't help but piss myself when folk are shocked when they get spived by the company and the country...

TBL Warrior, good to see you can get enjoyment out of reading about misfortunes of those working at PX.

It is not about complaining (no point in that..I'm no longer there), it is about letting others who might see PX as being an option for employment what they will be in for if they take the step.

And as stated...PX was not always like it is now...the years under the preceeding CEO were very good, the guys were happy and resignations were minimal.

Anyway, enjoy the read....just you dont "piss" yourself literaly, its not a good look.
Yes agreed my post was not about a whinge but to point out to all and sundry the realities of working in a third world corrupt country and to clearly indicate to those who are still there to let go of the false hopes that things will return to the good old days and get the hell out of dodge if you can.
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Old 24th Sep 2017, 11:33
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Receiving reports that AON still have not received any payments even after emails to Poxie highlighting the non payment.

Info is that the PNGAPA will be raising the issue with the regulator if a reply is not received from Poxie within the next couple of days.

Will the regulator investigate? Time will tell but it is PNG.
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A top guy!

Originally Posted by troppo
On a brighter note and in recognition of a life time of achievement. Captain Lekwa Gure retires after 40 years of safe aviating. Credit where it is due chaps.
I had the pleasure of training Lekwa on the A310-300 and a more dedicated, professional and mature pilot you would go a long way to find better!

I had(have) some concerns about the rapid nationalisation of the expatriate pilot body as of 2017 but if many of them have the skills and airmanship of Lekwa I would fly with them anywhere!

He is now into politics and hopefully he will be able to contribute to his country as he did for PX!

Well done Lekwa, always proud of you!

Ian FISCHER
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 05:00
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Someone must have had a big win at the Casino this weekend as all AON payments have just been made.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 20:51
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This news may come as a surprise to currently employed pilots at poxie.

A close source has advised me that there is a ground school being run for the 767 with externally employed pilots. The course is 2 weeks in and is being kept very hush hush from the pilot group.

No upgrades from the current pilot group.

And back on the ongoing financial dilemma reports are being received that a 767 receiving maintenance in China will not be released because of an unpaid bill reportedly around $5,000,000.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 06:06
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Well,we now know where the "missing" AON Super $$money was going!!! Question is now,where to steal a LAZY $5 Million, to "buy back" the 76?? (Simon might have to hand back his "Proficiency Bonus" for screwing the pilots.)
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 13:12
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Originally Posted by mauswara
Well,we now know where the "missing" AON Super $$money was going!!! Question is now,where to steal a LAZY $5 Million, to "buy back" the 76?? (Simon might have to hand back his "Proficiency Bonus" for screwing the pilots.)
Info not good. Unless the bill was paid at short notice. The aircraft in question has left heavy maintenance facility in China and should be back in POM as this is posted.
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Info is good.

And with regards the 767 training I have had it confirmed that 2 of the 3 F/O's on the course have no jet experience, one from Tonga and one from Oz.

Also being told that Toofar is referring to the F100 Checkies as "road blocks" because they are failing pilot's who cannot make the grade. He has told those road blockers that they cannot fail candidates and they will get as much line training as is required to get them to standard. They WILL pass!
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