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Just been advised ALL travel has to have prior approval from the 4th floor so if even you are paying for it yourself you need prior approval so there is no guarantee that you will get to see your family.
Last edited by olderairhead; 28th May 2016 at 11:53.
To clarify:
PX provides 2 tickets per month and issue is now subject to 4th floor approval.
ANY ticket issued by staff travel is now also subject to 4th floor approval.
They have no control over tickets purchased directly from other airlines.
As for accommodation PX provides accommodation or rental assistance for all expat pilots.
PX provides 2 tickets per month and issue is now subject to 4th floor approval.
ANY ticket issued by staff travel is now also subject to 4th floor approval.
They have no control over tickets purchased directly from other airlines.
As for accommodation PX provides accommodation or rental assistance for all expat pilots.
Press release published in the Post Courier by the Fraternity of National Professional Aviators 2 days ago. Draw your own conclusions.
Press Statement
Amid growing Safety concerns, we, the Fraternity of National Professional Aviators, join the cause of the students of various tertiary institutions and the Health Sector Unions for the Prime Minister Peter O’Neill to step down in order to preserve the integrity of the highest office of the land.
May 27, 2016
"That we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain - that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom - and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. "
President Abraham Lincoln - November 19, 1863
When President Lincoln uttered those words in a 2-minute speech at Gettysburg, they were so profound and encapsulated the essence of democracy. To this day, it remains the best speech ever. Those words are truer and more relevant to us Papua New Guineans as we, as a Nation, face challenging political and economic times.
“Government of the people, by the people, for the people and it shall not perish from earth”, assured through the last full measure of devotion, their lives. Lives given to free men from the shackles and bondage of slavery, in the belief that all men were born equal. As it was then, so it remains true today.
The people have spoken. Elected representatives on the floor of parliament or any hallowed halls of politics purporting to represent the people are merely instruments of conveyance. In the normal conduct of the business of governance, Norms and Protocols are observed.
These are not normal days we live in. The democratic process of governance and state institutions have been gravely undermined. As a result, our nation is poised on the brink of economic and political catastrophe.
As professional pilots, we ascribe to the ethos that no man is an island. It would be unconscionable for us or any reasonable person, for that matter to continue to turn a blind eye to the gross abuse of political office and mismanagement of the country's economy.
We share the nation’s concern and view with alacrity the snail’s pace at which the Judiciary is addressing high profile cases which are of monumental national interest.
The Safety of the traveling public is becoming a real concern. Shortage of spare parts for aircraft due to procurement difficulties imposed by restrictions on US Dollars, inability to meet payment obligations for overseas service providers on international networks, deteriorating infrastructures due to lack of finances and a plethora of other aviation related safety concerns are becoming real dangers by the day. They impact directly on the safety of the pilots and ultimately the traveling public.
We are now calling on all national professional pilots to take a decisive step in support of the rest of the nation including the professional doctors, health workers, and students by joining the chorus of disaffected voices calling for the restoration of the rule of law.
This country belongs to the people of Papua New Guinea. It does not belong to any one person, be it Peter O'Neill or anyone else. We, the people, may have given you the mandate, but you have more than amply demonstrated that you are not a fit and proper person to occupy that highest office of the land anymore.
We do not require the elections or the political representatives to decide for us. We the people have spoken. If you adamantly refuse to heed, then we call on all professional pilots to support the nation's call for action, by whatever is deemed necessary. The same call summons all Papua New Guineans because this government of the people, by the people, and for the people shall not perish at the hands of one man who will not subject himself to the rule of law, and seeks to destroy the institutions which exist to ensure the very principles our founding fathers laid to uphold the rule of law and democracy.
We truthfully and solemnly declare that we are not influenced by any political interest or external parties. We are driven by our conscience and concern about our future and that of our children. We want an environment where prosperity is assured, equitable distribution of wealth and the rule of law in a thriving democracy prevails.
We call on all you members of parliament to ask yourself what your purpose of being in parliament is: are you there to serve your people, or yourselves? Your behaviours are of suspect. We ask that you salvage whatever little dignity and principle you have remaining and truly represent us your people in calling for the Prime Minister to respect the public office he occupies and subject himself to the rule of law.
For democracy and freedom we respectfully ask Prime Minister O'Neill to step aside and allow due process to take place.
Press Statement
Amid growing Safety concerns, we, the Fraternity of National Professional Aviators, join the cause of the students of various tertiary institutions and the Health Sector Unions for the Prime Minister Peter O’Neill to step down in order to preserve the integrity of the highest office of the land.
May 27, 2016
"That we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain - that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom - and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. "
President Abraham Lincoln - November 19, 1863
When President Lincoln uttered those words in a 2-minute speech at Gettysburg, they were so profound and encapsulated the essence of democracy. To this day, it remains the best speech ever. Those words are truer and more relevant to us Papua New Guineans as we, as a Nation, face challenging political and economic times.
“Government of the people, by the people, for the people and it shall not perish from earth”, assured through the last full measure of devotion, their lives. Lives given to free men from the shackles and bondage of slavery, in the belief that all men were born equal. As it was then, so it remains true today.
The people have spoken. Elected representatives on the floor of parliament or any hallowed halls of politics purporting to represent the people are merely instruments of conveyance. In the normal conduct of the business of governance, Norms and Protocols are observed.
These are not normal days we live in. The democratic process of governance and state institutions have been gravely undermined. As a result, our nation is poised on the brink of economic and political catastrophe.
As professional pilots, we ascribe to the ethos that no man is an island. It would be unconscionable for us or any reasonable person, for that matter to continue to turn a blind eye to the gross abuse of political office and mismanagement of the country's economy.
We share the nation’s concern and view with alacrity the snail’s pace at which the Judiciary is addressing high profile cases which are of monumental national interest.
The Safety of the traveling public is becoming a real concern. Shortage of spare parts for aircraft due to procurement difficulties imposed by restrictions on US Dollars, inability to meet payment obligations for overseas service providers on international networks, deteriorating infrastructures due to lack of finances and a plethora of other aviation related safety concerns are becoming real dangers by the day. They impact directly on the safety of the pilots and ultimately the traveling public.
We are now calling on all national professional pilots to take a decisive step in support of the rest of the nation including the professional doctors, health workers, and students by joining the chorus of disaffected voices calling for the restoration of the rule of law.
This country belongs to the people of Papua New Guinea. It does not belong to any one person, be it Peter O'Neill or anyone else. We, the people, may have given you the mandate, but you have more than amply demonstrated that you are not a fit and proper person to occupy that highest office of the land anymore.
We do not require the elections or the political representatives to decide for us. We the people have spoken. If you adamantly refuse to heed, then we call on all professional pilots to support the nation's call for action, by whatever is deemed necessary. The same call summons all Papua New Guineans because this government of the people, by the people, and for the people shall not perish at the hands of one man who will not subject himself to the rule of law, and seeks to destroy the institutions which exist to ensure the very principles our founding fathers laid to uphold the rule of law and democracy.
We truthfully and solemnly declare that we are not influenced by any political interest or external parties. We are driven by our conscience and concern about our future and that of our children. We want an environment where prosperity is assured, equitable distribution of wealth and the rule of law in a thriving democracy prevails.
We call on all you members of parliament to ask yourself what your purpose of being in parliament is: are you there to serve your people, or yourselves? Your behaviours are of suspect. We ask that you salvage whatever little dignity and principle you have remaining and truly represent us your people in calling for the Prime Minister to respect the public office he occupies and subject himself to the rule of law.
For democracy and freedom we respectfully ask Prime Minister O'Neill to step aside and allow due process to take place.
Possible start of civil unrest.
PNG police shoot four protesting university students dead in Port Moresby, Parliament told - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
PX email to staff:
To All POM Staff:
Latest reports coming in from Gerehu Hospital has confirmed that five (05) students are now confirmed dead and four are been treated for wounds.
Due to the situation at the UPNG Waigani Campus, there is a ripple effect that is going around in the Nation’s Capital.
Fighting has been reported around the Manu-Autoport 3 mile area, six (06) mile area, Gerehu and Gordons areas.
All roads leading into the UPNG Waigani Campus has been blocked off and Police are heavily guarding UPNG.
All UPNG students were forced back into the campus and the situation is been monitored from outside the freeway.
All shopping centres in Gerehu, Rainbow, Manu, Erima and Gordons are closed.
All Public Transportations including buses and taxis have been forced off the road resulting in no buses operating. ANG Waigani Sales office is also closed as a precautionary measure.
Staffs are advised to refrain from using the public motorways and to take extra precaution if need to travel.
Shift staffs are advised to wait at their respective work stations until clearance is sought and Security Transport will be sending buses to transport staffs.
Next update will be sent out at 1400 hours.
Ground Ops & Aviation Security Management
PNG police shoot four protesting university students dead in Port Moresby, Parliament told - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
PX email to staff:
To All POM Staff:
Latest reports coming in from Gerehu Hospital has confirmed that five (05) students are now confirmed dead and four are been treated for wounds.
Due to the situation at the UPNG Waigani Campus, there is a ripple effect that is going around in the Nation’s Capital.
Fighting has been reported around the Manu-Autoport 3 mile area, six (06) mile area, Gerehu and Gordons areas.
All roads leading into the UPNG Waigani Campus has been blocked off and Police are heavily guarding UPNG.
All UPNG students were forced back into the campus and the situation is been monitored from outside the freeway.
All shopping centres in Gerehu, Rainbow, Manu, Erima and Gordons are closed.
All Public Transportations including buses and taxis have been forced off the road resulting in no buses operating. ANG Waigani Sales office is also closed as a precautionary measure.
Staffs are advised to refrain from using the public motorways and to take extra precaution if need to travel.
Shift staffs are advised to wait at their respective work stations until clearance is sought and Security Transport will be sending buses to transport staffs.
Next update will be sent out at 1400 hours.
Ground Ops & Aviation Security Management
Last edited by olderairhead; 8th Jun 2016 at 06:02.
With regards to the above post, some media outlets have changed their tune indicating that there were no deaths, only injuries!
Time for the boss man to stand aside for a while, have his name cleared through the correct processes in order for the country and its people to move forward positively. Until this happens, nothing will improve and industrial disputes such as the existing one will never end where both parties end up with an agreeable outcome.
Any flights been cancelled as a result of this latest protest event?
Time for the boss man to stand aside for a while, have his name cleared through the correct processes in order for the country and its people to move forward positively. Until this happens, nothing will improve and industrial disputes such as the existing one will never end where both parties end up with an agreeable outcome.
Any flights been cancelled as a result of this latest protest event?
Update
Transport was supposed to be back to normal today but a crew bus reportedly was stoned as crew were enroute to the airport. Transport services have been cancelled again due to safety concerns.
Also ABC reported incorrectly - no deaths but reports vary between 9 and 31 hospitalised - depends what paper you read.
Transport was supposed to be back to normal today but a crew bus reportedly was stoned as crew were enroute to the airport. Transport services have been cancelled again due to safety concerns.
Also ABC reported incorrectly - no deaths but reports vary between 9 and 31 hospitalised - depends what paper you read.
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The crew transport has been contracted out to Black Swan, O'Niel's company, so it is at your own risk to be in one of those while tensions against him are high.
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"The Q400's can't handle the terrain..." Mate have you ever flown a Q400? They pi** all over the terrain. Can depart Nadzab and be 6000 feet passing abeam the field and have made 18000 feet inside of 20 dme at pretty much MTOW without breaking a sweat...
Reasons for Q400 sale got NOTHING to do with performance.
"The Q400's can't handle the terrain..." Mate have you ever flown a Q400? They pi** all over the terrain. Can depart Nadzab and be 6000 feet passing abeam the field and have made 18000 feet inside of 20 dme at pretty much MTOW without breaking a sweat...
Reasons for Q400 sale got NOTHING to do with performance.
Well only one left now so meh..
The court hearing for the case took place on Wednesday 8th June at National Court Waigani.
The purpose of the hearing was to clarify and decide exactly the legal issues that are being claimed applicable to the case, and to hear PX response to them.
The next step should be to proceed to trial with those issues to be argued and decided by court ruling.
The pilot’s Lawyer had lodged the documents well prior to the required date. (There were seven main legal points plus a list of reasons why these issues arise.)
Surprise, PX was effectively a “no show”. K**** Layers for PX sent a junior lawyer rather that P**** K**** as required / listed and he delivered the following messages:-
1. Mr K**** is “sick” and can’t appear.
2. Intend to file a notice of motion for an adjournment
3. Intend to file notice of motion for case to be heard in a different court (this especially did not go down well)
The Judge was visibly angry and demanded to see K****’s sick certificate - which could not be produced. The Judge then asked the pilot’s lawyer “what is your position on this? “ He replied that it was “unfortunate” (since nothing could be done about it) and wanted the day’s total costs to be borne by ANL - this was granted.
The adjournment was granted; given there was no choice this time.
The Judge found point (3) to be “contentious”. This was because asking to be heard in a different courtroom is a request which is traditionally understood in the legal profession to be a way to ask for the case heard before a different Judge—usually of course because they believe that the Judge is biased against them.
Even a hint of the word “bias” goes down very badly in Judge’s circles.
The Judge then gave the junior lawyer a tongue lashing and told him to tell Mr K**** to “come very well prepared with a sick certificate - and a list of very good reasons why he believes I should disqualify myself”.( In other words prove to me I’m a biased judge).
What happens now?
The hearing has been adjourned until Monday 20th June. There can be no further adjournments.
At this hearing:-
1. The Judge will hear Kumans applications – and will rule on disqualifying himself.
2. It will be decided which issues will go to trial.
3. A date will be set for trial.
FAQ - What can Happen?
If / when the pilot’s win - can ANL appeal? -yes
But the appeal hearing CANNOT be adjourned
And the appeal hearing is FINAL.
Also worth noting is that IFALPA legal councel is interested in this case and offering any assistance / advice as required.
The purpose of the hearing was to clarify and decide exactly the legal issues that are being claimed applicable to the case, and to hear PX response to them.
The next step should be to proceed to trial with those issues to be argued and decided by court ruling.
The pilot’s Lawyer had lodged the documents well prior to the required date. (There were seven main legal points plus a list of reasons why these issues arise.)
Surprise, PX was effectively a “no show”. K**** Layers for PX sent a junior lawyer rather that P**** K**** as required / listed and he delivered the following messages:-
1. Mr K**** is “sick” and can’t appear.
2. Intend to file a notice of motion for an adjournment
3. Intend to file notice of motion for case to be heard in a different court (this especially did not go down well)
The Judge was visibly angry and demanded to see K****’s sick certificate - which could not be produced. The Judge then asked the pilot’s lawyer “what is your position on this? “ He replied that it was “unfortunate” (since nothing could be done about it) and wanted the day’s total costs to be borne by ANL - this was granted.
The adjournment was granted; given there was no choice this time.
The Judge found point (3) to be “contentious”. This was because asking to be heard in a different courtroom is a request which is traditionally understood in the legal profession to be a way to ask for the case heard before a different Judge—usually of course because they believe that the Judge is biased against them.
Even a hint of the word “bias” goes down very badly in Judge’s circles.
The Judge then gave the junior lawyer a tongue lashing and told him to tell Mr K**** to “come very well prepared with a sick certificate - and a list of very good reasons why he believes I should disqualify myself”.( In other words prove to me I’m a biased judge).
What happens now?
The hearing has been adjourned until Monday 20th June. There can be no further adjournments.
At this hearing:-
1. The Judge will hear Kumans applications – and will rule on disqualifying himself.
2. It will be decided which issues will go to trial.
3. A date will be set for trial.
FAQ - What can Happen?
If / when the pilot’s win - can ANL appeal? -yes
But the appeal hearing CANNOT be adjourned
And the appeal hearing is FINAL.
Also worth noting is that IFALPA legal councel is interested in this case and offering any assistance / advice as required.
Last edited by olderairhead; 12th Jun 2016 at 11:41. Reason: Edited by request.
Hearing 20 June:
The Judge wants both lawyers to use the pilots affidavit as the guideline for the next hearing so that his honor will determine finally the legal issues to be trialed.
Lawyer for PX reckoned that the list of legal issues to be trialed is too long but the Judge objected saying all were valid thus the order was for both sides to use the pilots affidavit as the guideline for the pre-trial hearing directions by the Judge.
The next hearing is early next month on the 8th or 9th (to be confirmed) but after that hearing the case will be heard by a Trial Judge hopefully within the same month of July.
The Judge wants both lawyers to use the pilots affidavit as the guideline for the next hearing so that his honor will determine finally the legal issues to be trialed.
Lawyer for PX reckoned that the list of legal issues to be trialed is too long but the Judge objected saying all were valid thus the order was for both sides to use the pilots affidavit as the guideline for the pre-trial hearing directions by the Judge.
The next hearing is early next month on the 8th or 9th (to be confirmed) but after that hearing the case will be heard by a Trial Judge hopefully within the same month of July.
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You guys will be pushing up daisies before a verdict is reached in this case.
I'd suggest that a verdict MUST be reached prior to AIRNOGAT/PILOTS issuing a new contract predicated on AIORNOGAT "REVIEWING" the contract, that being the one under the current Court Review.
From what I hear, IALPA is advising from the background, assisting the reported very, very, competant Legal Counsel that the National Airlines Pilots Union, supported by the PNG Airline Pilots Association, have engaged.
So, I suggest that any legal action would probably need to be resolved rather quickly.
Anyway, one way AIRNOGAT will have SOME pilots to fly SOME of its aircraft, the other way they wont have any.
Can hear the scream from Waigani now, "WHAT...NO JET TO HAGAN, AN ATR TO TO LAE, WHAT HAVE YOU MANAGEMENT GUYS DONE TO THIS COUNTRIES FINE AIRLINE!!!!
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Heard a whisper that the PX lawyer asked the pilots lawyer what they wanted in the next contract. Response was along the lines of he will be advising his clients (the pilots), no conditions or exceptions - to definitely not to sign anything until this case is resolved. 
Word is the PX lawyer looked uncomfortable hearing this.
Wonder if he had the goolies to pass this on to the worlds best HR manager?
Word is the PX lawyer looked uncomfortable hearing this.
Wonder if he had the goolies to pass this on to the worlds best HR manager?
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From what my old Expat "mates" are passing on is that any worsening conditions they will just simply walk as it simply wont be worth the pain for the skinny money on offer.
Then there is the National pilots (the new breed) simply wanting to leave as they can't understand why they are being shafted in money and conditions and no-one has offered a reason.
Did he work at PX in the past,...SOLAIR as well?
Then there is the National pilots (the new breed) simply wanting to leave as they can't understand why they are being shafted in money and conditions and no-one has offered a reason.
the worlds best HR manager?
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