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Old 14th Jun 2018, 11:33
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Seaeagle109
Balusnomore,

Haven't you heard the new "World terms":

1st World- Western democracies

2nd World- the old Soviet block countries, as I recall

3rd World- developing countries

now there's

4th World- were developing, now stagnating

5 th World- were developing, now going backwards.

Make up your own mind on which category PNG falls under
A fine definition of post independence indeed. Queenie was much smarter.
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 12:08
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And not only the highlands...seems a fokker jet got turned around just the other day on the way to Bukka.

Advice they got airborne that was that is was extremely unsafe to land because of Political problems.
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 12:41
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How about this for a quote from the website for the upcoming APEC Conference...

We will provide a secure environment where Leaders, Ministers and Delegates can advance APEC's policy agenda, and can leave Papua New Guinea knowing they have visited a culturally rich economically modernising country.

Guessing Air Force One wont be parking at Mendi...hahaha
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The news story says the plane suffered damage. Do we have any details on how severe the damage is?
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 12:58
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Mendi today


Mendi today
considerable !!!!
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 21:17
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Originally Posted by NCD
And not only the highlands...seems a fokker jet got turned around just the other day on the way to Bukka.

Advice they got airborne that was that is was extremely unsafe to land because of Political problems.
From the Post Courier:

Air Niugini flights to Buka have been cancelled for an indefinite period after vandals set alight the precision approach path indicators on the Eastern and Western end of the airport.
PAPI is normally operated by air traffic control (ATC) and if ATC services are not normally provided at an aerodrome as in Buka, then PAPI along with other airport lights may be activated by the pilot by keying the aircraft microphone with the aircraft’s communication radio tuned to the CTAF or dedicated pilot controlled lighting (PCL) frequency.
It is unknown who damaged the lightings and the police are working to find the person or persons involved.
Only PNG flights have been coming into Buka this week and the destruction of the runway equipment poses a great threat to aircraft and passengers.
Many passengers who were to travel out this week said the act of vandalism is not good and greatly affects travellers and the airlines that operate into the region.
A traveller who was due to travel on Wednesday said this shows “a bad attitude for us as we are heading into the referendum and it also causes business disruption.”
An attempt to get comments from NAC Buka was unsuccessful.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 01:37
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Profitable for PNGAir.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 06:18
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Originally Posted by balusnomore
How about this for a quote from the website for the upcoming APEC Conference...

We will provide a secure environment where Leaders, Ministers and Delegates can advance APEC's policy agenda, and can leave Papua New Guinea knowing they have visited a culturally rich economically modernising country.

Guessing Air Force One wont be parking at Mendi...hahaha
Could Air Force One land at POM? Many peoples feeling is that if Trump comes, (maybe he'll send the VP instead) he'd be put on an aircraft carrier out in the bay and be choppered into the conference centre. Already in the past 6 months there has been an Aussie aircraft carrier in the bay, and we've just had a visit from a Russkie warship. Could be that there are a few nervous leaders trying not to stay in the newly built Hilton.

Back on topic. I don't suppose Link PNG will get any insurance on the Dash-8? Was it owned or leased? More money woes for them.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 07:54
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The Sleeping Pax,

Yes, Air Force 1 could quite easily land at POM, the Japanese brought 2 B747 in a few years ago for some conference or official visit as I recall. The more pertinent question is where are they going to park all the aircraft that will be arriving for APEC as there's nowhere near enough Tarmac space for all the hardware that'll be turning up and the military apron is reported to be to soft to handle the sort of aircraft that'll be coming to visit. The last APEC in Da Nang, the place was a plane spotters paradice, not only AF1 but all the military transports for the Presidential vehicles and support staff, multiple heads of state aircraft( B747, A330, etc) and a reported 40 to 50 business jets.

This will be when the normal operations are all taking place as well.

I heard from a PX manager that the Dash-8 was insured and the coverage, apparently, includes provision for civil unrest/ riot damage; that kind of coverage would be expensive but he reckons it's covered.

Also, HMAS Canberra is the lead ship of the two ship Canberra class Amphibious Assault Ships otherwise known as a Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD)( source the RAN website). It's not really an aircraft carrier I'm told in a classic sense but I'm not a Navy guy, so who knows.


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Old 15th Jun 2018, 10:06
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Just before it was torched
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 10:26
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So, for those of us that don't speak the language; what are they saying?
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 10:41
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 11:44
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Originally Posted by Seaeagle109
I heard from a PX manager that the Dash-8 was insured and the coverage, apparently, includes provision for civil unrest/ riot damage; that kind of coverage would be expensive but he reckons it's covered.
If you reckon the insurance would be expensive, it will be more eye-wateringly more expensive at the next renewal after a total loss claim.
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 11:57
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SeaEagle: I only got the first bit from the guy on the steps speaking to the crowd but what he did say at first was that "the Balus (aircraft) is property of Air Niugini and it is safe." [Emi Sef] So much for that. Tok Pisin is rattled off very quickly in stressful times like this and maybe some of the talk was in the local Mendi dialect. (7000 languages are said to be in PNG).
The guy in the dark blue in front of the crowd looked to be a member of the Police Force and there were armed men there, but there is no way they would shoot rioters up there, too much payback.

On Loop TV this was said in the comments:
"PM, inogat nid long singautim SOE... Dispela ol manmeri ino ol longlong ol i save gut tumas olsem ol i rong tasol ol i go het na mekim... salim tupela Politicians go bek lo ol lain bilong ol na larim tupela toktok lo ol manmeri osem ol i bin tokim ol bipo lo eleksen petisen... PM, usim Rule Of Law istap pinis na stretim dispela hevi. Olgeta APEC countries long wolrd bai i gatim tupela kain tinktink long karim jet bilong ol ikam insait long Papua New Guinea lo wenem ol Mendi manmeri inogatim poret tinktink lo kukim balus."

My translation: "It was not necessary for the Prime Minister to call a State of Emergency. All the men and women here are not all crazy and know too well it is wrong to go nuts.... get the two Politicians to go back to all the business belonging to all the people involved and leave the two people to talk it out among themselves in the same way that they were before the election petition. The Prime Minister should use the Rule of Law, period, and straighten out this problem. All the APEC countries in the world are coming here and they will be thinking twice about bringing jet aircraft carrying all that come inside Papua New Guinea where the name of the Mendi people are now known not to have forward thinking and who burn aircraft....
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 20:58
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David,

Thanks for the translation.

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Old 15th Jun 2018, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Seaeagle109
David,

Thanks for the translation.

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Time to learn the lingo, you've been there long enough.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 00:33
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Politics Southern Highlands style.....at least 6 murders attributed to the last election, burning of buildings plus plus plus...


Just before it was torched

But nice to see that they had a "bit of a toktok about things" before the aircraft torching took place.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 02:41
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ANX insurance will be paid as the airframe landed before “civil unrest” was declared (payout more then market value hahah).

P2-PXD lease finished and will not be renewed. Hard to fathom with route expansion.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 04:07
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I doubt it. Insurance is usually either at indemnity (depreciated value) or reinstatement/replacement value (What is market value?) neither of which will see a payout more than the insured/at risk/agreed value. A global loss adjuster like McLarens is engaged by the underwriters to make sure there is no 'betterment' or fraud.
if you're under insured or within 90% of the insured value, look forward to the term 'average', if you're 'over insured' it's not really a win either as you have been paying a proportionate premium against the insured value/asset since you put it on your schedule
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